Hehehe, I don't think any of us older younger bucks didn't fit in. Since he is right in that about 70 year old range, I am probably pretty close to being in the same gray buck range he is. Not sure about the other bucks here. I am I think that I am am about 1 year younger than him. I think he said he was touching 70 here, but that was a bit back. He and smart guy have me my nick name as i was called Wallaby Dan. They took those wd and started a knock off of wd40. Right now, i am wd67 hehehe we have a good bunch of folk here. Just slowing down some of us are. I know he was having some issues with pain. I know about that too. He and i were both engine mechanic's. And now as we have hit that retirement age we work on computers and our old cars and whatever else we feel up to doing. I just hope my friend is ok. His family might never say anything to us here. Smart Guy has his ad and I have his address down in San Antone, Texas. May send him a note to find out if he's ok. Will let you know if I hear from him or the family. Later, wd