yea they took them off retail. Not too sure why but probably becuase with the release of the 650i chipset and they came so cheap no one would buy them. The Tforce is a good budget overclocker but it's screwey to try to OC with and it doesn't have many features. This is why I want a 650i.
Well I want a new board for everything but i just said that to make a point. Actually my CPU is only at 3.0ghz right now becuase I told you my mobo is acting screwy with the sound at anything higher so really I would be getting 300mhz more or so out of it.