Man I finally got a tv. It is 32" led, only goes up to 720 but I have bad vision and can't tell the difference anyway. I didn't get it with any smart tv built it but meh, I will usually be close to it enough to use hdmi cable to laptop and then phone as remote if I need to get up. I don't know how long its been since I bought a tv last. It was at least 2006. LCD was new so was hdtv, I paid six times more back then than this one I just got. I had no idea how cheap they had become.