hey uzi9mm, read the thread title and stop the flaming, this thread was pretty civil so far
It isnt necessarily a liberal versus conservative thing either, all that does is show the typical knee jerk reaction one dimensional thinking.....kinda like assuming there's only two OS's out there, mac and windows.
Lets look at this from a true conservative point of view. Bush may cliam to have "conservative" values but his policies show otherwise. Rampant deficit spending, huge increases in government size, inneffective response to crisis, misuse of military force, and the list goes on and on.......these are NOT conservative values or policies. True conservatives and republicans should be really really pissed by now, and some are, and rightfully so.
Stop with the straw man arguments unless you want embarrassed, cause a few of us are more than capable of that if you want flamed in return.