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Old 11-01-2010, 11:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So I am way behind on the times. What seems to be the better processor these days, intel or amd? What about RAM? I see all these builds with 6 gbs split over 3 sticks. Is it still advisable to go with an even number of sticks than odd or doesnt it matter much? I would really appreciate some ideas for a build that is good for gaming but also just general multimedia use. I would like to play all the newer games at reasonable settings but by no means must they be maxed out. Also, a build that will last for a few years.

I am not going to OC it and my budget is about $750-$800.

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Also, I won't be building this right away but over the next couple months. Are there any new releases coming out soon that will drop prices that I should hold out for, or just go ahead and build?
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Old 11-01-2010, 11:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Intel or Amd cpu ?

That should answer your questions about the cpu and for ram if you have a dual channel cpu you want it in 2's if you have tri channel you want them in 3's

I don't have the time to put a build together at this moment but if someone doesnt get you taken care of i'll come back around and take a shot.
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thank you! guess that shows how far behind i am. i didnt even know there were tri channel cpu's
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i didnt even know there were tri channel cpu's
I believe he was refering to the RAM and that point.
For a reccomendation on graphics card, a good mid-end GPU from ATI would be one the new 6000 series and for Nividia the GTX460. you can pick one of these up for about £150-£200 (sorry about the pounds)
If thats a bit of the your price range i'd look at the 5000 series from ATI, the 6000 series has only recently been relased and the 5000 series should start to drop in price.

I agree with abstracts comment above for the RAM it's probaly best to keep it in 2's for dual channal, and 3's for tri channel. another way to think about it is if it's dual go up in 2,4,6 and so on and for tri go for 3,6,9 etc.
on that budget it would probaly be best to go for dual chan.

CPU: alot of it does come down to perosnal choice but if i'm not mistaken early 2011 intel are releasing a new processor range and this will probaly drop the price down on some of there current ranges out if your willing to wait that long.
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So which of these two processors is actually better?

Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition Deneb 3.5GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HDZ970FBGMBOX

Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750

The i5 is more expensive but when I looked at CPU benchmarks, the Phenom had a better rating. Is this too simplified/am I missing something? Which is actually the better processor?
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Well I did mean cpus. CPUs are the deciding factor on ram. they are the compatibility factor not just the mobo like most think.

As for those CPUs the Phenom is clocked a lot higher. They both have their positives but out of the box that phenom is quicker.

Here is my build its $10 over budget but well worth saving that extra bit.

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and that build will be able to run most games at decent settings and last for a few years?
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Well I did mean cpus. CPUs are the deciding factor on ram. they are the compatibility factor not just the mobo like most think.

As for those CPUs the Phenom is clocked a lot higher. They both have their positives but out of the box that phenom is quicker.

Here is my build its $10 over budget but well worth saving that extra bit.

Case
Newegg.com - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan
HD
Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
GPU
Newegg.com - SPARKLE SXX460768D5UNM GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
PSU
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
RAM
Newegg.com - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
CPU/MOBO
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!

$809.93 + s/h
The only thing I'd suggest on that build is maybe knock the CPU down to a 955 to save a bit of extra $$$ and then Put the extra $$$ on a 1GB version of the 460.

And yes that PC will last for at least two years playing games, maybe not on maximum settings but yeah. Very nice build Abstract, Just I think those ideas will help :P
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would it be worth it to go spend a little more and get the 1 gb version of the card and go with the 970? I think I could stretch the budget a little.
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would it be worth it to go spend a little more and get the 1 gb version of the card and go with the 970? I think I could stretch the budget a little.
I personally don't think the 970 Is worth it, you can overclock a 955 to around 3.8GHZ or maybe even higher and it also has higher energy usage - 140W as compared to 125W of the 955/965. Thus this may mean it won't overclock as high, I'd personally go for the 955. (Only get the 955 if you can get a combo deal though so you actually save money!) and yes it would probably be worth going for the 1GB card, depending on your Monitor size and what resolution you are going to play at.
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