Wireless Network Collapse (Urgent - Help Please!) - Techist - Tech Forum

Go Back   Techist - Tech Forum > Internet > Computer Networking and Internet Hardware
Click Here to Login
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 05-20-2007, 12:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
Ultra Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 575
Send a message via ICQ to Cunjo Send a message via Yahoo to Cunjo
Exclamation Wireless Network Collapse (Urgent - Help Please!)

Specs:
Gateway Laptop with XP Home
Avaya Gold Wireless PC Card
Microsoft MN-500 Wireless Base Station
Westell Wirespeed DSL Modem

Laptop is connected to the Base Station via wireless with the Avaya card. This computer (that I'm posting from) still has a solid connection via Ethernet to the same router.

My wireless network just collapsed. One minute I was working online, and the next all my connections were terminated and I was left with no wireless connection.

I tried pulling out the Avaya Wireless Card and re-inserting it to force the drivers to reload. I got an alert saying that one or more wireless networks were available, but when I tried to connect to it, it disappeared again.

I rebooted. When I got back up, I was connected to the internet again via the wireless connection. The connection lasted about two minutes (long enough to open my browser and connect with Trillian and Teamspeak) but then it died again. Nothing.

I went over to the router and unplugged it (would have done this sooner, but I didn't want to have to reprogram it again), waited 30 seconds, and plugged it in again. A minute later after it's warmed up, I get the notification that a wireless network is available. I tell it to connect (have to confirm it manually, since it's now unencrypted after the router reset), but it doesn't connect, and just gives me the notification that it's available again, asking me to confirm again as if it had just found the network again. No matter how many times I confirm, it just sends me instantly back to square one - the instant I connect to it, it disconnects and finds the network again, asking me if I want to connect.

I turn EVERYTHING off. The router, the modem, the computer. I wait a few minutes, and then plug it all back in again. When I turn the computer on, I have no wireless connections available. A few minutes later, it sudden;y appears and I manage to connect. The connection is solid, and fluctuates from Excellent to Very Good and back to Excellent. However, the connection lasts only a matter of seconds this time, and I don't even have time to load up Trillian before it drops it, and I'm back to the "One or more wireless connections available" confirmation boxing... fifteen minutes of frustrated configuration messing and troubleshooting later, the network just disappears again, and I'm left with no available networks.

That's where I'm at now... I need to know if it's a Hardware problem (and which piece of hardware if it is), a driver problem (and how to fix it if it is) or an OS problem (and if I should just kill myself now if it is, because there's no way I can reinstall and still save all my data this time). It is now 00:25 local time and I have less than 14 hours to figure it out and fix it at this point... the clock is ticking.
__________________

__________________
\"I\'ll do it cheap, I\'ll do it fast, or I\'ll do it well. You can only choose two.\"
Cunjo is offline  
Old 05-20-2007, 02:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
Ultra Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 575
Send a message via ICQ to Cunjo Send a message via Yahoo to Cunjo
Default Re: Wireless Network Collapse (Urgent - Help Please!)

It's a bit early to be declaring it fixed, I think, but for the moment anyway it appears to be relatively stable again... ran a system restore to some point yesterday around noon, and it hasn't fallen off yet... just keeping my fingers crossed.

A bit ago it appeared that it would manage to reconnect itself to the internet any time I let it alone for a while and came back to wake it from the screensaver, only to disconnect again a minute or so later... which would appear to substantiate the theory that it's a software-related problem.
__________________

__________________
\"I\'ll do it cheap, I\'ll do it fast, or I\'ll do it well. You can only choose two.\"
Cunjo is offline  
Old 05-20-2007, 02:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
Ultra Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 575
Send a message via ICQ to Cunjo Send a message via Yahoo to Cunjo
Default Re: Wireless Network Collapse (Urgent - Help Please!)

Negative... it's down again
__________________
\"I\'ll do it cheap, I\'ll do it fast, or I\'ll do it well. You can only choose two.\"
Cunjo is offline  
Old 05-20-2007, 04:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
Ultra Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 575
Send a message via ICQ to Cunjo Send a message via Yahoo to Cunjo
Default Re: Wireless Network Collapse (Urgent - Help Please!)

Just bought a new wireless router... a belkin wireless G.

A word from the wiser, never buy a Belkin wireless router. It won't work AT ALL with any machines that aren't running its own crappy software. It wouldn't even connect via ethernet with this box, because it's running Knoppix, and I can't use their installation CD on it. I just spent $40 on an ugly paperweight.
__________________
\"I\'ll do it cheap, I\'ll do it fast, or I\'ll do it well. You can only choose two.\"
Cunjo is offline  
Old 05-20-2007, 07:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
Everything to Nothing
 
Nick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wales
Posts: 4,053
Send a message via MSN to Nick
Default Re: Wireless Network Collapse (Urgent - Help Please!)

i have that belkin router, have you read the insructions and gone to 192.168.2.1 and set it up properly?
__________________
Nick is offline  
Old 05-20-2007, 12:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
Ultra Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 575
Send a message via ICQ to Cunjo Send a message via Yahoo to Cunjo
Default Re: Wireless Network Collapse (Urgent - Help Please!)

192.168.2.1 is reserved by the old router, Belkin took 192.168.2.2. I tried that, but it wouldn't work. When I plugged in the Belkin, it would tell me it was available, and I could connect to it, but when I did I had no connection to the internet. When I tried going to 192.168.2.2, the router kicked me off. It did this repeatedly until I gave up.
__________________
\"I\'ll do it cheap, I\'ll do it fast, or I\'ll do it well. You can only choose two.\"
Cunjo is offline  
Old 05-21-2007, 02:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
Ultra Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 575
Send a message via ICQ to Cunjo Send a message via Yahoo to Cunjo
Default Re: Wireless Network Collapse (Urgent - Help Please!)

Ok... I bought a new wireless PC card. that seemed to fix it... so far.
__________________
\"I\'ll do it cheap, I\'ll do it fast, or I\'ll do it well. You can only choose two.\"
Cunjo is offline  
Old 05-21-2007, 09:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
Wizard Techie
 
Ethereal_Dragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 3,755
Send a message via AIM to Ethereal_Dragon Send a message via Yahoo to Ethereal_Dragon
Default Re: Wireless Network Collapse (Urgent - Help Please!)

Have you checked the laptops power scheme's to see if it shuts off the wireless adaptor after a set period of time? Does this happen both when the laptop is plugged into wall power and when on battery power, or more with one than the other?

For the Belkin router, you will want to DISABLE DHCP in that router, and let the gateway router perform all DHCP operations.
__________________

__________________
Gaming Laptop: - ASUS K501LX-EB71 - Stock (Wife's) - Gateway P-6860FX - Stock (Mine)
General Laptop: - Sony Vaio SVE141D1L - Stock (Mine)
Gaming Rig: BACK ONLINE!! ASUS Z87-PRO (V EDITION), Intel Core i5-4590 Haswell (Stock Cooling), HyperX FURY 8GB DDR3 1866,
XFX Radeon HD 4870, SILVERSTONE DA700, Samsung 840 500Gig SSD MZ-7TD500BW, 3x WD20EARS 2 TB Green,
ASUS DRW-2014L1T (DVD), LG WH14NS40 (Blu Ray), Dell 2709W, Sony SDM-HS95P, Windows 10 Pro
The NAS Box: OFFLINE D-Link DNS-323, 0.1RC3 Alt-F firmware, 2x 7200.14 ST3000DM001 3TB EXT4 - NO RAID - 6 TB
Home Server: BUILD LOG!! - Supermicro SC826TQ-R800LPB chassis, X8DTN+, Dual Xeon E5620 (Stock),
4x Nanya NT4GC72B4NA1NL-CG (24GB Reg ECC DDR3), 12x MICRON MT36JSZF51272PZ-1G4G1FG (48GB Reg ECC DDR3), (72GB total memory)
2x OCZ Agility (60GB) (OS & Backup), 6x WD40EFRX (4TB) in RaidZ2 (14.3 TB usable), 2x Q Series HDTS225XZSTA (256GB) ZIL & L2ARC mirrored

Ethereal_Dragon is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Conflict between PCI Video card and PCI Wireless Network Adapter otaku_mike Hardware Repairs and Troubleshooting 1 06-13-2007 01:01 PM
Wireless Network has me at wits end!! crazyiball Computer Networking and Internet Hardware 10 05-19-2007 03:19 AM
Fraternity Wireless Network, Please Help jrmints Computer Networking and Internet Hardware 3 04-18-2007 04:07 PM
Netgear WGE111 - Playstation 2 Wireless network IanP Computer Networking and Internet Hardware 2 04-10-2007 01:55 AM
Vista & my Wireless Network motoxer4533 Microsoft Windows and Software 2 03-31-2007 08:58 PM



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.