mynetdude
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I've heard over and over that when setting up windows that I should always create a standard account and an admin account and use my PC normally from a standard account that way if an app needs to update or I want to install an app (which I happen to do a lot especially on my gaming rig).
I've even been told EVERYBODY's computer should be setup this way, even after reformatting a customer's PC and at first I thought to myself ok this is no big deal; but I'm starting to see some problems and implications that could be troublesome for the end users UNLESS there is something I am missing?
A) every time a windows app (especially for windows 8 because Metro Apps don't require the same admin permissions) wants to install or update you have to enter the admin password for the admin account since you are not logged in as admin. Well ok, this theory is OK except that this is going to happen for EVERY update, EVERY install and we're not even talking about UAC which is totally different.
B) I'm told that UAC is important, yes I can see that and I agree; you are prompted with a yellow/white window with a yes/no option to allow it, shouldn't that be enough? Now windows 8 has smartscreen and it will challenge applications that aren't recognized (not just Metro apps, but they are almost always recognized because Microsoft wouldn't allow it to be in the app market if it had questionable credibility).
I'm a little confused here; why would I want people to have to go through the burden of entering their admin password for every single update/install since UAC is going to challenge it even on an admin account (unless UAC is set really low or turned off).
The other thing is I've been told that windows doesn't create an admin account on first install; if that's the case then why is the very first account an admin account anyway? If windows does indeed create an admin account perhaps I don't see it? (or is that a safe mode feature? Even in safe mode the extra "super" admin account doesn't always appear.
Right now I have a customer whom I think is having issues with the admin+standard account password challenge for updates/installs and she has to ask me what her password is I think its overly complex don't you?
I've even been told EVERYBODY's computer should be setup this way, even after reformatting a customer's PC and at first I thought to myself ok this is no big deal; but I'm starting to see some problems and implications that could be troublesome for the end users UNLESS there is something I am missing?
A) every time a windows app (especially for windows 8 because Metro Apps don't require the same admin permissions) wants to install or update you have to enter the admin password for the admin account since you are not logged in as admin. Well ok, this theory is OK except that this is going to happen for EVERY update, EVERY install and we're not even talking about UAC which is totally different.
B) I'm told that UAC is important, yes I can see that and I agree; you are prompted with a yellow/white window with a yes/no option to allow it, shouldn't that be enough? Now windows 8 has smartscreen and it will challenge applications that aren't recognized (not just Metro apps, but they are almost always recognized because Microsoft wouldn't allow it to be in the app market if it had questionable credibility).
I'm a little confused here; why would I want people to have to go through the burden of entering their admin password for every single update/install since UAC is going to challenge it even on an admin account (unless UAC is set really low or turned off).
The other thing is I've been told that windows doesn't create an admin account on first install; if that's the case then why is the very first account an admin account anyway? If windows does indeed create an admin account perhaps I don't see it? (or is that a safe mode feature? Even in safe mode the extra "super" admin account doesn't always appear.
Right now I have a customer whom I think is having issues with the admin+standard account password challenge for updates/installs and she has to ask me what her password is I think its overly complex don't you?