I must have looked at the wrong Optie 180, cause I saw it was running at 2.6. Must have been the 185 then. But even so, how many people overclock with the multiplier anyway? You get a better OC by raising the HTT, or am I wrong? And I know the uses of the Opteron CPUs, its just that if you get to dual core CPUs running at the same speed, why would I pay $350 more to have a unlocked multi, and nothing else? Does the FX60 use better silicone, or use a better architecture? Does anyone know what core the FX60 has, cause there is no mention of it on the AMD website.