Joeisalsocool
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Im definatly going to wait till pci-e is mainstream, and more integrated.
precisely. Any board that tries to incoorperate both would suck.They say the AGP slot is crap though as it is a bridge that has slower speeds.
Nubius said:
What are you talking about? You saying he should get a 6600GT which is like putting a shiney new cadillac into a run down old barn...
Nubius said:
I know they don't make boards with AGP and PCI-E as that'd just be stupid since PCI-E is completely taking over.
I know they don't make boards with ISA and PCI as that'd just be stupid since PCI is completely taking over.
Dude, where are you getting numbers like $700. I never said he needed to go out and grab a new AGP based board...even if he did that'd still be good for atleast a year or more inwhich by that time he might be ready to upgrade again. PCI-E or AGP is his decision and $700 is far from what he would need to spend.But I also don't think he should spend $700 for a 20% improvement over his current rig
Ok and that has to do with what? They may have done it previously, but it sure isn't standard practice now. Miller said they do have AGP and PCI-E boards but they pretty much suck having to make a bridge to the AGP so it's not really as efficient as just moving to the next stage.I know they don't make boards with ISA and PCI as that'd just be stupid since PCI is completely taking over.
You are not an economy buyer if you're paying $700 a pop and within 6 months paying it again. Again, where you got this kind of idea is beyond me.He would have to pay $700 for a 20% improvement and pay that amount again in 6 months.
Ok that's you...you can't take YOUR experience and throw it into his. He says he has a freakin microatx case...do you know how cramped those are? He needs atleast good sized case so he'll have room for Full ATX boards for one, and having a good Full tower case is nice because it's easy to remove hardware while leaving it in the case.I've never upgraded just a case. I also tend to hold on to my last two systems for alternative OS installs so the ones I dispose go to the dump.
Thats the point. Quit living in the past and talking about ISA was there along with PCI because that was a whole new generation that we're talking about. It's not as efficient to even attempt today with the power these cards are producing.So I am surprised by the lack of AGP on the PCI express boards because it's the first time this has happened since microchannel.
PCI-E and PCI-X are two different things BTWBy then PCI-X should be mainstream and more integrated. It would then be a better time to upgrade
Nubius said:Dude, where are you getting numbers like $700. I never said he needed to go out and grab a new AGP based board...
Nubius said:Ok that's you...you can't take YOUR experience and throw it into his.
Nubius said:You don't play FPS shooters that are fairly up to date with todays gaming standards so why are you telling him what he does or doesn't need?
Nubius said:Thats the point. Quit living in the past and talking about ISA was there along with PCI because that was a whole new generation that we're talking about.
Who said top of the line mobo loaded with fast RAM? I said grab some PC3200 and never even said like a 1gb or anything. 512mb of PC3200 = around $70 assuming you get valueRAM which if he's not OC'ing that's all he needs.Top of the line MB, loaded with fast RAM, and high quality graphics can easily run you $700.
I believe I also told him, if he would want to wait even longer he could save up enough for a PCI-E based board and a 6600GT PCI-E and buy both at the same time didn't I?In order to do that, he'd have to get an AGP board because he'd have to use his current card. If that is not what you meant, I stand corrected but it IS what you wrote.
Sharing is one thing. Applying your experience to what he's doing and assuming it's the same scenario is another.Sure I can. That's why we are here. To share our experiences.
Video editing an animation rely less on the graphics card than it does with the rest of the hardware IE CPU and RAM. He clearly stated he was looking at the 6600GT from the get go. An all around good budget card for gaming and whatever else he might need. The card was never up for discussion but rather what order to get it.And before you say it, FPS is not the only use for a good graphics card. Video editing and animation comes to mind. Have you ever written a DirectX or openGL application?
Right, must be a new IE plugin that you have where you can sense the tone of my voice through text huh? Trust me, if I were getting 'bent out of shape' youd know it. I don't know what you consider a 'Attempt at ridicule or flaming' but unless I specifically said 'YOU IDIOT! WHY DO YOU DO THIS BLAH BLAH BLAH!' then you've simply taken a statement and perceived it the wrong way. I've seen and been through a hundred of your type before where you'll throw in this last little tidbit of what's considered "intelligent" conversation so simply put, get over yourself.Finally, there is no reason to get all bent out of shape. Your attempt at ridicule and flaming is not conducive to an intelligent discussion. What does one do when the Moderator doesn't obey the rules of the forum he's moderating? I'm dissapointed in you.