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Old 09-09-2008, 03:18 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Not talking about price, performance wise, what will i7 have that deneb won't?
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Nehalem is a huge change to x86. The changes include:

-Integrated memory controller, supports up to six channel DDR3
-QPI (similar to hypertransport, it replaces fsb)
-Simultaneous multihtreading essentially doubles the numbers of threads per core (ie a quad core has 8 threads, as opposed to 4 threads in a Yorkfield or Kentsfield)
-Native monolithic quad and octo core
-It is reported to have 25% better single threaded and 2 times the multithreaded performance per clock of penryn.
-30% low power usage per clock


The 2.66ghz bloom field will run you $284 and have 8 threads for 4 cores with 256k l2 cache (per core) and 8mb shared L3 cache
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that sounds pretty beasty compared to deneb which will be?....
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Deneb will be a 45nm shrink of agena with 6mb L3 cache.
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Default Re: AMD or Intel?

So it goes without saying Core i7 is going to rap* deneb...
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Default Re: AMD or Intel?

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Deneb will be a 45nm shrink of agena with 6mb L3 cache.

Deneb is much more than that....the ipc will be higher and perform better, its not just a die shrink.

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So it goes without saying Core i7 is going to rap* deneb...

we dont know yet, wait untill theyre both released.
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You cant say for sure. But knowing the improvements that Deneb will make you can make a pretty good guess, and it's not hard to see that Nehalem will be faster. By how much, you cant know without benchmarking production cpus.
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Let's all expect AMD to make a slower chip, then it'll be so funny if they end up being better (like 4 series.. that was full of laughs)
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kinda like hd2900 series.. lol
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If Deneb turns out to be a world beater I will admit that I was wrong. I go with the company that is on top. I am no fanboy and never have been.
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