specialblend218
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Hey just to clarify a few things...
There is nothing wrong with black ice rads or Thermochill for that matter. Heatercores used to be ther prefered radiator mainly because of a price performance issue. A few years ago a black ice ProII was around $90 and a Bonneville heatercore was $22. Allthough the heatercore will disipate more heat, you have to think about it on the system level and it the gains are worth the hassle. If you're just looking at cooling the CPU going with a heater core will get you about 1c better CPU temps. Now does that equate to anything on the system level? In most cases no. So the added gain is worth it.
A heatercore like the Bonneville is about $22 bucks, plus a shroud $10, and mounting hardware $2. Now it's up to $34 bucks. Where as one can get a black ice ProII for the same price:
http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=162&cat=84&page=1
Now you have to weigh if that 1c better temp and hassle of dealing with the heatcore for the same cost that will most likely show no gains in stability or high clocks is worth it. The Black ice rad's like other commercial rads are simple and screw right in which is nice. Now you have to weigh out wich on is better for you, becuase your doing it. Some people like the heatercore becuase they feel good that they modded it. Kudos to them, because that is something to be proud of.
Also you most likely don't want to go for the Xtreme raditator. It was designed for high CFM fans which is why it's much thicker. It does perform better then the PRO with matched fans. But you will not like the sounds of fans greater then 100CFM which is what the Black ice Xtreme radiators need to perform. The Pro was made much thinner so the user can use normall fans and still get a good amount of air through the radiator.
NOTHING cools better than water. It is the benchmark everything else is measured against. It has a thermal coefficient of "1". Anything you add to water will negatively effect it's ability to absorb heat. Additives such as Water Wetter, Zerex and antifreeze with a "anti-foaming" ingredient will lessen the negative impact, but not improve heat absorption.
While a T-line is less restrictive (barely) then a reservoir the flowrate is almost the same. They are so close that the user will not see a difference on the system level. Either way I think it depends on the user. Some people like T-Lines and some like reservoirs. They each there positives and negatives. Once you try both you will probably find out which one suits you best and stick with that one.
Sorry for the long post but I hope I shed some light on a few things.
Shumway said:Nos,Stay away from rad's like the Black Ice and that,You want a rad that's actually going to cool good,Grab a heater core for either a 86 chevette or a 77 Pontiac Bonneville and mod it,You will get better heat dissapation with it
There is nothing wrong with black ice rads or Thermochill for that matter. Heatercores used to be ther prefered radiator mainly because of a price performance issue. A few years ago a black ice ProII was around $90 and a Bonneville heatercore was $22. Allthough the heatercore will disipate more heat, you have to think about it on the system level and it the gains are worth the hassle. If you're just looking at cooling the CPU going with a heater core will get you about 1c better CPU temps. Now does that equate to anything on the system level? In most cases no. So the added gain is worth it.
A heatercore like the Bonneville is about $22 bucks, plus a shroud $10, and mounting hardware $2. Now it's up to $34 bucks. Where as one can get a black ice ProII for the same price:
http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=162&cat=84&page=1
Now you have to weigh if that 1c better temp and hassle of dealing with the heatcore for the same cost that will most likely show no gains in stability or high clocks is worth it. The Black ice rad's like other commercial rads are simple and screw right in which is nice. Now you have to weigh out wich on is better for you, becuase your doing it. Some people like the heatercore becuase they feel good that they modded it. Kudos to them, because that is something to be proud of.
Also you most likely don't want to go for the Xtreme raditator. It was designed for high CFM fans which is why it's much thicker. It does perform better then the PRO with matched fans. But you will not like the sounds of fans greater then 100CFM which is what the Black ice Xtreme radiators need to perform. The Pro was made much thinner so the user can use normall fans and still get a good amount of air through the radiator.
NosBoost300 said:ya, i was planning on using an anti-freeze, water alone kinda sucks... lol
i still got alot to learn here... so its a good thing i got about 3 weeks until i buy
NOTHING cools better than water. It is the benchmark everything else is measured against. It has a thermal coefficient of "1". Anything you add to water will negatively effect it's ability to absorb heat. Additives such as Water Wetter, Zerex and antifreeze with a "anti-foaming" ingredient will lessen the negative impact, but not improve heat absorption.
aspire.comptech said:A t-line while it does take much longer to bleed, is much more efficient, as it basically creates an in line reservoir. This is very good because it promotes a much higher flowrate, and makes the system, much much much easier to fill.
Finally, it makes adding water to the loop much easier.
While a T-line is less restrictive (barely) then a reservoir the flowrate is almost the same. They are so close that the user will not see a difference on the system level. Either way I think it depends on the user. Some people like T-Lines and some like reservoirs. They each there positives and negatives. Once you try both you will probably find out which one suits you best and stick with that one.
Sorry for the long post but I hope I shed some light on a few things.