well, i just seen something i felt very weird, people always complain that the hard drive came in and was written to be 80gb 160gb etc but when formated, and installed windows there is always appear to be a few gbs or even a few ten gbs less, but it is supposed to be normal, but why? and the weirest thing is that my friend had a dell media pc, when it came in, the hard drive was about 180gb, and after they got formated and reinstalled win xp it became 127gb, when i had experience with a seagate 160gb hard drive, formated got the same result--127gb, so i suspect that his dell pc is using the same hd, but how can u explain when the first time it came in got as big as 180gb?? if what i suspect is correct is there a way to format a 160gb hard drive in to a closely 180gb hard drive?? can someone explain this to me?