dude... if u want reliability and somthing stable go wid the PNY Verto. Very very nice quality and just... yeah its totally awesome.. Im buying it as soon as i get the money T_T.
I've got MSI AGP and it RULEZZZ and pwns, that is all I can say. I got mine for 200 bux off newegg, but now it dorpped 30 bucks and it's $170 --> good deal