: : after being on this forum a day or too ago i decided to see what vista is actually like , so i downloaded,installed and succsessfully activated windows ultimate. the graphics are fab, the security quite good, sound and lay out good but strange to a xp user, after that its pure heart ache, you have to search for ever trying to find a antivirus compatible with it ,i tried norton,nod 32,mcafee ,it wouldnt entertain, them finally i downloaded advast free version which works fine. i gave up trying to get a good firewall and had to use windows own firewall. i tried the dvd software in the media center to convert and burn my avi film files, it took an eternity to encode, then stopped responding at aboat 4/5% and giving me a error message . i repeated this process several times only to get he same responce,. by this time i was getting ready to go into orbit out came the ghost floppy disc ,restart computer into dos ,restore xp image , here i am again back on xp, my advice to anyone thinking of upgrading to vista is THINK AGAIN, DONT BOTHER!!!