Samsung Galaxy A11 question

[Ste]

For at least 30+ years now everything in corporations and companies has been about design obsolescence PLus anything they can think of to do microtransactions and "Subscription" based scams, Uh I mean Services.


Sooo it's highly statically likely that no matter how much you paid for it they will always say and do anything to steal more money from you.

TL : DR , try as hard as you can to make your current products or setups last as long as possible.

 

[ikonix360]

Gonna try and make this one last a little bit longer.

Maybe when I get my tax returns in February I'll be able to get a new phone.

 

[MemRefreshABC]

What I also wonder is if Samsung did like Apple did at one point and an update made the phone not be as good to force an upgrade?

That is a possibility. Sometimes upgrades can cause compatibility issues, especially if the charger is older than the upgrade. Devices and old software can be depriciated and when that happens, they may no longer work as expected.

 

[ikonix360]

Not to mention that apps constantly upgrade and many developers tend to make their apps more bloated just because more resources are there. nevermind that the app functionality hasn't changed and looks the exact same.

TikTok is a prime example. Have had it for a few years. The app hasn't changed much visually or functionality wise, yet it seems to get slower on my phone with each TikTok update.

 

[Trotter]

If you decide you don't want to wait until February, you can always check out Swappa. I've bought several phones through Swappa over the years.

 

[ikonix360]

More than likely I'll wait as I can then get a current Samsung phone that will hopefully last several years like my current one has.

When I do get a new phone, I'll likely take off the apps not needed for music and video streaming and just use it as a streaming music player.

 

[ikonix360]

I now have an issue of the phone not charging at a higher current.

The board with the charge connector on it is good, the battery is good, my charger is good and several charge cables I've tried are good.

The phone will initially draw about 1.3A at 82% battery then drop quickly to 200mA and sometimes even 10mA.

It acts just like it did with the stock board, however I've done absolutely nothing to cause enough wear and tear on the charge connector contacts in less than a year to where it does the same as the original board that lasted from 2019-2024 did.

I can plug up the original real short charge cable to the charger and the charge amperage stays above 1A, however the problem shows up when I use any other 5-6 foot cable or use a USB extension cable on the short original cable.

I cannot believe the USB extension cable is bad as I've done nothing to it to cause it to go bad.

The longer cables I cannot believe are bad as they've received much less wear and tear than the original cable and I always buy decent quality cables. Plus the several longer cables would not all be bad at the same time. Even a shorter USB C to USB C cable that came with the newer charger is showing the same problem and I barely used the cable as I thought maybe it was bad given it had the same issue with the stock board.

I know the board is likely the problem specifically the USB C connector, but how can that cause all longer cables to not work and the original short cable to work just fine especially when the short cable has a few more years of wear and tear on it?

Things I know.

1. Board is about a year old so the connector cannot possibly be worn out this quickly.
2. Charger is good.
3. All cables cannot go bad all at one time with the original receiving more wear and tear being just fine.
4. Battery is good.

Believe I'll file this under things that the relevant scientific laws says cannot happen, yet are happening.

 

[tehnokraat]

Well, there are at all such options: (of course, if the charger and the phone themselves are physically in good condition.)
1. indeed, these cables purchased are of poor quality and the resistance of their cable itself is too high. This is not particularly evident with new batteries, but it is evident with older batteries. The battery is usually old if it is older than a year, sometimes two.
2. your phone's battery is old and its internal resistance increases very quickly when charging
3. you have switched your phone to limited charging mode.
The only recommendation, if you are not a special electronics specialist, always use original products, not any random ones that can be bought for cheap money.

In addition, there are also so-called data cables available (generally not suitable for charging) and power cables that are specially made for higher current, but may not be suitable for data transfer.

So, what cables are you trying to charge with and how did you measure those amperages?
And also - how old is this battery and have you still chosen the right phone numbers?

The capacity of lithium-ion batteries decreases quite quickly at first, remaining at about 75 percent of the original capacity within a year. And this is almost independent of use. On the other hand, the internal resistance of an older battery increases rapidly, the battery starts to heat up and fill up very quickly. At the same time, the operating time between charges also shortens a lot and the charging current also becomes smaller and smaller.
The older battery can also become so-called fat (sometimes it is said that the battery is pregnant). Do you have such symptoms as it gets hot and the back cover is curved?

 

[ikonix360]

1. Cables are good as they used to work just fine.
2. Battery is maybe a year old.
3. Limited charging mode is off.

To measure the current I used an app called Ampere. It merely displays the data that the phone uses for charging battery temperature, charge current ETC...

 

[tehnokraat]

It's hard to say anything smart, I have to look into how this Ampere works and what it shows. One thing is clear, it gets its data indirectly, measuring the change in voltage over a certain period of time, but this may not give the right results.
One more question, are you using the Samsung 15W charger or something else.
If you use a more powerful charger, the charging system may turn off charging altogether.
For example, I have an A22 5G and an S25 Plus, the A22 cannot be charged with a charger greater than 15W, then the charging simply will turned off before the battery is full, while with the S25 both chargers work and even a more powerful one, for example a 35W one, works perfectly.
If you can, try another Samsung charger, but not more powerful than 15W.
But it's worth remembering that the more fully charged the battery is, the lower the charging current. And at the end of charging, the charging current is really very low.