N.A. Auto Show in Detroit

[ricanflow]

I dunno i call this muscle:

<table><tbody><tr class="odd"><th>Standard Engine</th> <td>6.1L V8</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Standard Transmission</th> <td>5 Speed Automatic</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Cylinders</th> <td>8</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Horsepower @RPM</th> <td>425@6200</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Fuel Economy Cty/Hwy</th> <td>13 / 18</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Combined Fuel Economy</th> <td>15</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>EPA Class</th> <td>Mid-Size</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Number of Valves</th> <td>16</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Torque @RPM</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Fuel Type System</th> <td>Gas Engine / Sequential Electronic Fuel Injected, Sequential Port Fuel Injected Sequential, Multi-Port Fuel Injected</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Turbo (Yes/No)</th> <td>No</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Overdrive Transmission</th> <td>Yes</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Battery Output</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Compression</th> <td>10.3:1</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Displacement</th> <td>6059 / 370</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Bore X Stroke</th> <td>4.06x3.58</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Cruising Range</th> <td>285 miles</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Final Drive Gear Ratio Opt</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Power to Weight Ratio</th> <td>9.7</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Final Drive Ratio</th> <td>No</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Valves Configuration</th> <td>Overhead Valve</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Supercharged</th> <td>No</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Electric HorsePower RPM</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Electric Torque Feet Per Pound</th> <td>N/A (foot-lbs)</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Electric Torque RPM</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="even last"> <th>Electric HorsePower BHP</th> <td>N/A</td></tr></tbody></table>

 

[lancec2c30]

There is just too much plastic for it to be considered "muscle". lol

 

[Poizen22]

I dunno i call this muscle:

<table><tbody><tr class="odd"><th>Standard Engine</th> <td>6.1L V8</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Standard Transmission</th> <td>5 Speed Automatic</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Cylinders</th> <td>8</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Horsepower @RPM</th> <td>425@6200</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Fuel Economy Cty/Hwy</th> <td>13 / 18</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Combined Fuel Economy</th> <td>15</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>EPA Class</th> <td>Mid-Size</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Number of Valves</th> <td>16</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Torque @RPM</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Fuel Type System</th> <td>Gas Engine / Sequential Electronic Fuel Injected, Sequential Port Fuel Injected Sequential, Multi-Port Fuel Injected</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Turbo (Yes/No)</th> <td>No</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Overdrive Transmission</th> <td>Yes</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Battery Output</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Compression</th> <td>10.3:1</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Displacement</th> <td>6059 / 370</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Bore X Stroke</th> <td>4.06x3.58</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Cruising Range</th> <td>285 miles</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Final Drive Gear Ratio Opt</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Power to Weight Ratio</th> <td>9.7</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Final Drive Ratio</th> <td>No</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Valves Configuration</th> <td>Overhead Valve</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Supercharged</th> <td>No</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Electric HorsePower RPM</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <th>Electric Torque Feet Per Pound</th> <td>N/A (foot-lbs)</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <th>Electric Torque RPM</th> <td>N/A</td> </tr> <tr class="even last"> <th>Electric HorsePower BHP</th> <td>N/A</td></tr></tbody></table>

i agree with you man the dodge challenger is muscle looks beastly. 6.1 lt engine v8 hemi hmm delish. car is boss, i used to drift with it in forza 2 lol. id own everyone to.

 

[lancec2c30]

The new challenger couldn't possibly be a muscle car. It doesn't get 4mpg, it has decent brakes, it can corner, it has overdrive, The wheels are larger then 14in, and it has seatbelts. All of which are things that were non existent in old school challengers, cudas, mustangs, and camaros.

 

[Poizen22]

The new challenger couldn't possibly be a muscle car. It doesn't get 4mpg, it has decent brakes, it can corner, it has overdrive, The wheels are larger then 14in, and it has seatbelts. All of which are things that were non existent in old school challengers, cudas, mustangs, and camaros.

it might well just get the 4mpg lol not joking either.

 

[lancec2c30]

I am sure you could get it to do that pretty easily. lol But the problem with the older cars was you couldn't get more then 4.

 

[ricanflow]

The new challenger couldn't possibly be a muscle car. It doesn't get 4mpg, it has decent brakes, it can corner, it has overdrive, The wheels are larger then 14in, and it has seatbelts. All of which are things that were non existent in old school challengers, cudas, mustangs, and camaros.

Those are old school muscle cars.

Modern muscle cars have those features, along with large beasty engines.

 

[CntdwnToExtn]

This IS Detroit Muscle in the modern day

Shelby GT 500 KR Super Snake
725HP, Kenne- Bell Twin-screwed supersharged
0-60 in less than 4 seconds.
Offered by Ford...but no warranty.
*Tim Allan grunt* arh arh arh

 

[lancec2c30]

Add the stupid insane dealer mark-up on the KR's and you have yourself a good reason to swap a kenne bell onto a normal GT500.

Anyway, I would have a 3.4L whipple over a KB any day.

 

[philbar71]

the thing about the new camaros and mustangs is thier all way too heavy. i think the new V8 camaro is supposed to weigh close to 4000lb. that's just too much. even the ZR1 weighs alot, like 3400lb. i think the ideal soprts car weighs in at or around 3000lb. like the Z06.