harveson
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Hello everybody,
I have an HP laptop (actually I have three of them, but that's another story), and as I surveyed the field of computers last December I had a list of features I wanted.
(HP gave me a chance to review/critique my purchase, but I waited too long to do that).
I ended up getting an HP 17-by3063st laptop.
It has a screen that is 17 inches; one thing I wanted was a DVD-burner in addition to the usual bells and whistles.
Comment: I wanted a 15-inch screen laptop with a DVD-burner but the community of manufacturers don't include that these days. There are fashions in computer manufacture and ten or more years ago a burner was a mainstay. Now the fashion of a solid-state drive is all the rage.
I have a Windows 7 laptop (1.45 GHz, 4GB-RAM), and a Windows 10 (2 GHz, 8 GB RAM) 15"-screen laptop (both with burners) both with AMD processors.
This HP 17-by3063st laptop has two things I haven't used before: a 128-GB SSD in addition to a 1 TB HDD. It also has an Intel I3-10th Gen processor.
It also had original an 8GB RAM card, to which I added another 8GB RAM card. The performance compared to the other laptops is FAST.
Is that the boosted RAM or the I-3 processor?
As I looked at the computer last January and assessed the specs and performance, I looked at the 128-GB SSD.
It is a TLC, three-layer cell. The Operating System and recovery files are loaded there - bad choice?
All the commentary on TLC is that they fail after a few years, or few months on high-use machines.
I gave a less-than-flattering critique on an HP forum site of the "Entry-level components" included on the machine. They were not amused (i.e., no further response).
A recommendation for a replacement for the 128GB SSD was one unsuitable for my computer (the choice of "B" versus "M" and "B+M" not mentioned).
The complaint (of others) of a 128GB drive was that after the OS there was NO ROOM for applications to be installed.
There is a 'tech-paradigm' that once a drive is more than 40% full, you look for a replacement; the drive was 45% full.
I did get a 256GB SSD, installed the OS and drive files from backup, and it's running fine.
The 128GB TLC drive was actually running fine; using POWERSHELL it showed no wear after weeks of use. How long would it take with my use?
The keyboard is "natural silver" which is nearly unusable in dim light - you need a lamp on the laptop to see the keys. Other laptops have black keys with white letters.
More visible.
Was it worth it?
Yes. I installed Visual Studio 6 on it, as I write, build and produce software that is still in use. I'm not a fan of the .NET framework supported programming suites.
C, C++ and VB can still do quite alot.
Was it the best I could have gotten; ... probably.
HP has their top of line, middling and low-end computers.
Intel I3 processors are getting old, the components and features are older, so I got a low-end better than average machine - that works well for me.
I don't run high-end games (UFO Alien Invasion based on a Quake-2 engine from Sourceforge.net) or a company/corporation/internet-server.
I got a holiday-deal with a reduction in price and low-end entry-level quality - still very good.
It's a battle out there for manufacturers and many computers, laptops, distributed processing from computers, watches, appliances and Smartphones.
Has the form factor gotten played out?
For me the laptop was a godsend when I got one (Pentium 133) in 1999. Time may pass me by but it's still a good essential for home or business.
HP 17-by3063st laptop
Display
17.3" · 1600 x 900p
Processor
Dual Core 1.2 GHz Intel Core i3
Graphics
Intel UHD Graphics
Storage
1TB HDD, 128GB SSD
RAM
8GB DDR4 SDRAM 2.67 GHz
Audio
Array microphone
Features
Widescreen
Network Interface
802.11ax, Bluetooth
Operating System
Windows
Connectors
2x USB 3.0
Color
Natural Silver, Vertical Brushed Pattern
Dimensions (HWD)
0.96" x 16.34" x 10.71"
Weight
5.40 lbs
I have an HP laptop (actually I have three of them, but that's another story), and as I surveyed the field of computers last December I had a list of features I wanted.
(HP gave me a chance to review/critique my purchase, but I waited too long to do that).
I ended up getting an HP 17-by3063st laptop.
It has a screen that is 17 inches; one thing I wanted was a DVD-burner in addition to the usual bells and whistles.
Comment: I wanted a 15-inch screen laptop with a DVD-burner but the community of manufacturers don't include that these days. There are fashions in computer manufacture and ten or more years ago a burner was a mainstay. Now the fashion of a solid-state drive is all the rage.
I have a Windows 7 laptop (1.45 GHz, 4GB-RAM), and a Windows 10 (2 GHz, 8 GB RAM) 15"-screen laptop (both with burners) both with AMD processors.
This HP 17-by3063st laptop has two things I haven't used before: a 128-GB SSD in addition to a 1 TB HDD. It also has an Intel I3-10th Gen processor.
It also had original an 8GB RAM card, to which I added another 8GB RAM card. The performance compared to the other laptops is FAST.
Is that the boosted RAM or the I-3 processor?
As I looked at the computer last January and assessed the specs and performance, I looked at the 128-GB SSD.
It is a TLC, three-layer cell. The Operating System and recovery files are loaded there - bad choice?
All the commentary on TLC is that they fail after a few years, or few months on high-use machines.
I gave a less-than-flattering critique on an HP forum site of the "Entry-level components" included on the machine. They were not amused (i.e., no further response).
A recommendation for a replacement for the 128GB SSD was one unsuitable for my computer (the choice of "B" versus "M" and "B+M" not mentioned).
The complaint (of others) of a 128GB drive was that after the OS there was NO ROOM for applications to be installed.
There is a 'tech-paradigm' that once a drive is more than 40% full, you look for a replacement; the drive was 45% full.
I did get a 256GB SSD, installed the OS and drive files from backup, and it's running fine.
The 128GB TLC drive was actually running fine; using POWERSHELL it showed no wear after weeks of use. How long would it take with my use?
The keyboard is "natural silver" which is nearly unusable in dim light - you need a lamp on the laptop to see the keys. Other laptops have black keys with white letters.
More visible.
Was it worth it?
Yes. I installed Visual Studio 6 on it, as I write, build and produce software that is still in use. I'm not a fan of the .NET framework supported programming suites.
C, C++ and VB can still do quite alot.
Was it the best I could have gotten; ... probably.
HP has their top of line, middling and low-end computers.
Intel I3 processors are getting old, the components and features are older, so I got a low-end better than average machine - that works well for me.
I don't run high-end games (UFO Alien Invasion based on a Quake-2 engine from Sourceforge.net) or a company/corporation/internet-server.
I got a holiday-deal with a reduction in price and low-end entry-level quality - still very good.
It's a battle out there for manufacturers and many computers, laptops, distributed processing from computers, watches, appliances and Smartphones.
Has the form factor gotten played out?
For me the laptop was a godsend when I got one (Pentium 133) in 1999. Time may pass me by but it's still a good essential for home or business.
HP 17-by3063st laptop
Display
17.3" · 1600 x 900p
Processor
Dual Core 1.2 GHz Intel Core i3
Graphics
Intel UHD Graphics
Storage
1TB HDD, 128GB SSD
RAM
8GB DDR4 SDRAM 2.67 GHz
Audio
Array microphone
Features
Widescreen
Network Interface
802.11ax, Bluetooth
Operating System
Windows
Connectors
2x USB 3.0
Color
Natural Silver, Vertical Brushed Pattern
Dimensions (HWD)
0.96" x 16.34" x 10.71"
Weight
5.40 lbs
