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Yea thats totally true.. I had this conversation with a few younger people and just told them to go get Certified in Unix, Linux and CCIE.Security+ is nothing more than the DoD giving Comptia a hand job really. Only DoD cares about that cert, and there is nothing of actual value in the material that somebody in the field shouldn't already know. I would easily replace both of those with recommending a CISSP if you want hardcore security knowledge.