right, well i don't think there's actually 11,000 members that are current on here, but of course the money for this forum would be awsome, i am just saying, also give back to the community ya know, that's where i think the contests would be a cool idea, doesn't have to be huge like a new rig, but maybe a hard drive, cd-burner, whatever just little trinkets that the modders can rip apart lol, but as soon as i have money again i'd be more than happy to donate money, even every month if needed, just gimme a place to mail it to =)