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Well, here goes. I'm getting help on another forum for this. Although they seem to know their tech stuff as well, I figured I'd also put this out there for my friends here at CF to help out with. Here's what I've got so far.
Objective: Install projector in church sanctuary and meet or beat the $5,000 budget.
Firstly, let me give you the measurables and the concrete decisions first.
-100" rear projection screen. 4:3 aspect ratio. Vinyl material (not plexi or glass).
-Fixed frame. Perm-Wall from Da-Lite.
-Projector throughput of 7-8'.
-Needs to be accessed/usable through networking...wireless or wired...preferably the former. See below for more on this, though. **SEE THE EDIT**
-Screen, projector, and extra lens need to total less than $4,000...but less is better if it's not a major loss in quality. Budget is actually $5,000, but we have some electrical that needs to be rerouted in the wall that the screen will be mounted to.
Okay. So that's that. Now for the question marks.
-Projector screen material: I've spoken with Da-Lite twice. I have been given example pictures of a church that used both Da-Tex and Dual Vision coated screens. They didn't buy quality projectors...they were around 1500 lumens, I believe. The Da-Tex hot spotted, the Dual Vision was uniform, but did not yield high contrast because of the quality of the projector. After speaking with Da-Lite, it seems we'll be going with Dual Vision for the screen material. We'll be investing in a quality projector, so I would rather it be uniform and have less contrast versus hot spotting just to have a little more contrast. Our lighting situation will be about 50/50 controlled, so we have some leeway which is why I feel Dual Vision is the way to go, not to mention that our worst half-angles are around 40 degrees vertical and 40 degrees horizontal, so we'd be covered by going with Dual Vision. It will also be nice because the Dual Vision is a white material, where Da-Tex and Da-Tex HC is gray and dark gray respectively; white will just look more "natural" in our sanctuary.
-Projector screen distributor/reseller: I have no clue where to purchase from. Prices vary from place to place, but I'd rather purchase from somewhere that has decent customer service and pay a little more for it. I have found the screen I'm looking for in a few places, one of them is here at this link: http://www.projectorzone.com/Da-Lite-Perm-Wall-59x80-Video (and then the Dual Vision coating; $450), here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/134435-REG/Da_Lite_79965_79965_Perm_Wall_Fixed_Frame.html, and here: http://www.projectorpeople.com/screens/screendtls.asp?manu=Da-Lite&itmname=Perm-Wall
If you know of any great places to purchase a Da-Lite screen, please enlighten me. I know lots of place to buy computer technology and whatnot, but this is new territory for me.
-Can the projector be networked? It really needs to be if we are to keep things simple. We've purchased a laptop to run the projector through wireless or wired networking. The wireless solution would be great. We could just network the laptop to the projector to run the slideshows and whatnot. However, if the projector only has wired networking available, I'll just purchase a wireless router to put with the projector in the room; then we'll network it that. Either way, if we can avoid running analog cables, that'd be awesome. If neither of those are an option with the projector, I would just dust off an old "junker" computer I have and put it in the room with the projector. Then I would just use remote desktop to control the slides. Wireless would just be great though.
-The PROJECTOR! This is the biggest question mark. I'm thinking we're going to need 3,000+ lumens to really make this worth our time and effort. It sounds like the Dual Vision screen material really shines when the fL (footlambert) is high (75-100fL). It's still good at 45-50fL, but that's what the washed out screen in this picture is on the right (this is the comparison picture that Da-Lite sent me; Da-Tex on the left, Dual Vision on the right): http://i42.tinypic.com/rgxqu1.jpg
Like above, it'd be great if the projector could be networked. Wired or wireless...but preferably wireless. I've tried to use the projector search here, but I don't come up with many results. However, I did seem to find a few that looked satisfactory. I found this Epson PowerLite 1725 (http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_1725.htm) and this Sanyo PLC-XU355 (http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sanyo-PLC-XU355.htm). I have not looked at any other websites to search for a projector, so any other "search sites" would be appreciated.
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Alright. I know that was long. Let me sum up in one list.
-100" Perm-Wall "Dual Vision" Da-Lite screen.
-Through put of about 7-8'
-**Projector with 3,000+ lumens to get the fL count up to 75-100 to "beat" the ambient light if needed. Projector must be networkable.**
So basically, I need help finding a projector!
EDIT: I've got to say, I'm a little saddened. I just found another thread that AV-Integrated and Sheridan posted in and it looks like actual presentations can't be sent over network. . Being that the projector will be on the second floor and across the room (50 feet) from where the computer is, we'll have to go the remote desktop approach I guess, since running a VGA or USB-Cat5/6-USB extender would me more expensive than using a junker computer that I've got laying around. Well, shoot. It was worth the thought. Can't wait til they optimize video streaming for stuff like this. Guess it's just not the same as streaming your home network.
Second on-the-fly edit: Now that I realize streaming can't happen over the network, I'll probably have way more choices for projectors since before one of my requirements while searching was the networking option.
Objective: Install projector in church sanctuary and meet or beat the $5,000 budget.
Firstly, let me give you the measurables and the concrete decisions first.
-100" rear projection screen. 4:3 aspect ratio. Vinyl material (not plexi or glass).
-Fixed frame. Perm-Wall from Da-Lite.
-Projector throughput of 7-8'.
-Needs to be accessed/usable through networking...wireless or wired...preferably the former. See below for more on this, though. **SEE THE EDIT**
-Screen, projector, and extra lens need to total less than $4,000...but less is better if it's not a major loss in quality. Budget is actually $5,000, but we have some electrical that needs to be rerouted in the wall that the screen will be mounted to.
Okay. So that's that. Now for the question marks.
-Projector screen material: I've spoken with Da-Lite twice. I have been given example pictures of a church that used both Da-Tex and Dual Vision coated screens. They didn't buy quality projectors...they were around 1500 lumens, I believe. The Da-Tex hot spotted, the Dual Vision was uniform, but did not yield high contrast because of the quality of the projector. After speaking with Da-Lite, it seems we'll be going with Dual Vision for the screen material. We'll be investing in a quality projector, so I would rather it be uniform and have less contrast versus hot spotting just to have a little more contrast. Our lighting situation will be about 50/50 controlled, so we have some leeway which is why I feel Dual Vision is the way to go, not to mention that our worst half-angles are around 40 degrees vertical and 40 degrees horizontal, so we'd be covered by going with Dual Vision. It will also be nice because the Dual Vision is a white material, where Da-Tex and Da-Tex HC is gray and dark gray respectively; white will just look more "natural" in our sanctuary.
-Projector screen distributor/reseller: I have no clue where to purchase from. Prices vary from place to place, but I'd rather purchase from somewhere that has decent customer service and pay a little more for it. I have found the screen I'm looking for in a few places, one of them is here at this link: http://www.projectorzone.com/Da-Lite-Perm-Wall-59x80-Video (and then the Dual Vision coating; $450), here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/134435-REG/Da_Lite_79965_79965_Perm_Wall_Fixed_Frame.html, and here: http://www.projectorpeople.com/screens/screendtls.asp?manu=Da-Lite&itmname=Perm-Wall
If you know of any great places to purchase a Da-Lite screen, please enlighten me. I know lots of place to buy computer technology and whatnot, but this is new territory for me.
-Can the projector be networked? It really needs to be if we are to keep things simple. We've purchased a laptop to run the projector through wireless or wired networking. The wireless solution would be great. We could just network the laptop to the projector to run the slideshows and whatnot. However, if the projector only has wired networking available, I'll just purchase a wireless router to put with the projector in the room; then we'll network it that. Either way, if we can avoid running analog cables, that'd be awesome. If neither of those are an option with the projector, I would just dust off an old "junker" computer I have and put it in the room with the projector. Then I would just use remote desktop to control the slides. Wireless would just be great though.
-The PROJECTOR! This is the biggest question mark. I'm thinking we're going to need 3,000+ lumens to really make this worth our time and effort. It sounds like the Dual Vision screen material really shines when the fL (footlambert) is high (75-100fL). It's still good at 45-50fL, but that's what the washed out screen in this picture is on the right (this is the comparison picture that Da-Lite sent me; Da-Tex on the left, Dual Vision on the right): http://i42.tinypic.com/rgxqu1.jpg
Like above, it'd be great if the projector could be networked. Wired or wireless...but preferably wireless. I've tried to use the projector search here, but I don't come up with many results. However, I did seem to find a few that looked satisfactory. I found this Epson PowerLite 1725 (http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_1725.htm) and this Sanyo PLC-XU355 (http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sanyo-PLC-XU355.htm). I have not looked at any other websites to search for a projector, so any other "search sites" would be appreciated.
___
Alright. I know that was long. Let me sum up in one list.
-100" Perm-Wall "Dual Vision" Da-Lite screen.
-Through put of about 7-8'
-**Projector with 3,000+ lumens to get the fL count up to 75-100 to "beat" the ambient light if needed. Projector must be networkable.**
So basically, I need help finding a projector!
EDIT: I've got to say, I'm a little saddened. I just found another thread that AV-Integrated and Sheridan posted in and it looks like actual presentations can't be sent over network. . Being that the projector will be on the second floor and across the room (50 feet) from where the computer is, we'll have to go the remote desktop approach I guess, since running a VGA or USB-Cat5/6-USB extender would me more expensive than using a junker computer that I've got laying around. Well, shoot. It was worth the thought. Can't wait til they optimize video streaming for stuff like this. Guess it's just not the same as streaming your home network.
Second on-the-fly edit: Now that I realize streaming can't happen over the network, I'll probably have way more choices for projectors since before one of my requirements while searching was the networking option.