Originally Posted by EricB
you could get 3rd party software (like vcom systemsuite) to make xp as secure without the headache
Yes but you can also add the same software to Vista and make it rock solid compared to XP.
I still will not admit that Vist is a failure. For 2 reasons. 1. This tacits is being done by Microsoft to please the consumer. It even says it in the article that they are doing it cause of the Mini PC's that are gonna be released with XP Home. If they kill XP now those PC's, which will not run Vista, wont have a Windows OS. Microsoft will not allow that to happen. They are bowing to the will of hte consumer.
2. Vista is not a failure cause it does work. I have used it for over a year. I know it works. I know plenty of people who know it works cause we have it working. I have my family who doesnt know PC's using it. My wife uses it and she doesnt know anything about PC's and she loves it. It does work.
There is no reason why you should have to fix a Vista machine with Viruses. I have yet to get one. I dont even have a firewall installed. I just run a anti-virus. Yet i go thru Osiris's guide at least once a week and find nothing. Not a single file out of place. Why it is that i can stay so protected with just NOD32? I do go to those unsavory sites as well. Yet i do not have Viruses. That just tells me that those people know nothing of security and would get a XP machine destroyed let alone a Vista machine.
So the fact that they are running VIsta has nothing to do with it. It is the fact they have no clue about security. If they did they wouldnt have these issues. Just like me and alot of other people do.
Sorry Eric but i do not see how Vista is ME II. No it is not as fast as XP. I have admitted that much. But it does work. You say it doesnt yet i have nothing but proof that it does. I have netowrked it. I have made images of it. I have run the same applicaitons for XP on it and everything worked. Even the driver backup stuff worked on it. the Driver is a issue. I will give you that.
My nVidia drivers for my 8600GT is a prime example. In VIsta they crash and Aero goes under constantly. But those same exact driver, same drivers now, work flawlessly in Server 2008. Which has the same code base just a Server OS. So all they have to do is reverse engineer Server 08 and put out these tings as patches and make Vista work better. If they do it irght, Vista can be even faster than XP. As Server 2008 knocks the pants off XP.
I will give you XP is great. I never said it wasnt. But i still will not admit Vista is a failure cause some people can not figure out how to work it. There are people who still cant work Linux so it that a failure? Same for OS X. Just cause the minority can not use something does not make it a failure. The majority still use it. Vista's userbase is the strongest yet. So something has to be right about it.
Overall XP is faster. But you can not take away the fact that Vista is more secure. Even without UAC. I am glad that everyone gets happy with the fact that XP gets extended. But i am scared for you as well. If Windows 7 doesnt shape up the way you guy s want you will say the same stuff then and this cycle will just start over. It will scare me then as the OS will be 10 years old by then and every hacker from the world over will be able to find flaws in it. Yet everyone will still back it. If Windows 7 doesnt show you guys improvement over XP you folks will hang it out to dry.
I have said my peace. I know that i am alone in almost all of my thoughts. Which doesnt bother me. XP is great. I still use it. But Vista is by no means a failure. It does work.