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Here is a interesting submission, although I'd like to point out that Microsoft is changing this behavior in future builds. Here's what would of happened if it weren't for dedicated beta testers and our loud vocal concerns being heard.

Microsoft Windows Vista's User Account Control (UAC) is currently set up in such a way as to take up to seven steps to delete a shortcut from the desktop.

This may change when the product eventually ships, but for those who are not able to test Vista as yet, an interesting series of images details the process of deleting a shortcut from the desktop.

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=151250154&size=o
 
The subject of the link in your last post warez is something that annoys the **** out of my about vista too. Needs to be sorted that does. And also just opening things takes effort.
 
That UAP is for protection. I think it is a great addition. That will stop all the drive by installs of Spyware, viruses and the likes. You will have to give permission for things to install. So if something goes wrong you are to blame. People have been asking for something like this for a long time. Now that we have it all we get are complaints.

Sorry folks cant have it both ways. Either they allow the drive by installs or they have us give permission to install everything. There is no middle ground on this one.
 
Of course its good to have permissions on installs but the deleting aspect is just annoying. Should delete after you have confirmed once not 3/4 times, thats ridiculous.

Anyway Makaveli do you know how to change the desktop icons size to smaller as in one row you can only fit like 6 and on xp its 9.
 
That is something that many people have been trying to figure out since this was first released as a Beta. That i dont know. I dont use Desktop Icons so i really havent tried to find the answer.

I do know what you are saying with the UAP. But sometimes we are just prone to click Okay and not look at what we are clicking okay to. So i find the reptative clicking good as it actually makes me look at what i am doing and if i want to or not. Instead of just allowing everything and end up paying the price in the end.
 
Oh ok then, sure sum1 will have the answer sumwhere.

Yeah thats true. Can be very frustrating having deleted sumthing you didnt actually mean to. I guess its cos we not used to it and takes more time.
 
It seems another major feature has been stripped from Windows Vista. PC-to-PC sync, which Microsoft co-president Jim Allchin described as one of his favorite Vista features back in January. "You really can leave all your documents on a server and use cached copies on the client," he said. "It's just synchronizing the files when you make changes, as needed."

It's unclear whether PC-to-PC sync will appear later, perhaps as a Web download update to Vista, or in a future Windows release. (Microsoft does plan to offer XPS functionality via a Web download to Vista users.) Typically, when Microsoft drops features from the Windows version currently in development, those features get lumped into the next release. But Microsoft has indicated that it will be releasing more frequent Windows updates going forward, though it hasn't yet specified how it will deliver those updates.

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=50481&feed=rss&subj=0
 
I'm sure many of you are very much looking forward to Windows Vista, with its promising new security features. On the other hand, I bet very few of you are ready for the new OS. If beta versions are any sort of indicator, you might want to stock up on aspirin before you tackle Vista because current reports indicate that adapting to it isn't going to be nearly as simple as moving from Windows 2000 to Windows XP was.

First of all, there will be hardware issues. Each new OS demands more resources. To get a good idea of the evolution in requirements for Windows over time, head over to TechWeb and read "Windows System Reqs. 1990-2006: More For Less."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20060520/tc_cmp/188100630

Don't think you'll be able to take all your older 32-bit Pentium III systems and upgrade the OS to Vista. You'll need at least an 800MHz CPU, 1GB of system RAM, and 128MB of video RAM. I'm guessing that even with those minimum requirements, the system will run at a snail's pace when you have several applications and browser tabs open. You might have to buy new hardware if you want to take full advantage of Windows Vista's spiffy new features, including the new UI.

Another problem you might encounter is that some of your hardware might not work because Vista might not ship with compatible drivers, vendors might not make drivers available until some date later than when Vista ships, or some vendors might not provide Vista-compatible drivers at all because they might retire a given device model. This is especially true for laptops, which tend to use unique hardware components. For one man's perspective on this sort of headache with a recent Vista beta, read Gary Krakow's "Windows Vista Beta 2: The key word is 'Beta'."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12932382

Assuming you get past the hardware concerns, you'll then be confronted with security issues. Right up front, you can expect to see lots of vulnerabilities exposed. It never fails to happen when Microsoft releases a new OS. You can bet people are already looking for holes, and many of those people won't say a word about or move to exploit the holes they find until Vista is in widespread use.

Then of course there is the new User Access Control (UAC). If you haven't tested Windows Vista yet, you're in for quite a surprise with UAC. Unless Microsoft makes some significant changes before the final release of Vista, it will offer a far different user experience than we're used to. Granted, UAC brings much needed control over the OS (which probably should have been built in starting with Windows NT), but UAC introduces a level of tediousness that will test your users' tolerance.

To learn about the potential user experience with UAC in the current version of Vista, be sure to read Paul Thurrott's "Windows Vista February 2006 CTP (Build 5308/5342) Review, Part 5: Where Vista Fails" (at the first URL below) and "Biting the Security Bullet" (at the second URL below). You can also learn a bit more about the end user experience of UAC by reading the Microsoft UACBlog article "User Account Control Prompts on the Secure Desktop" (at the third URL below).

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_5308_05.asp

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/50361/50361.html

http://blogs.msdn.com/uac/archive/2006/05/03/589561.aspx

And let's not forget training. Vista will probably require considerable training for your Help desk personnel, your end users, and of course IT staff.

I hope I don't sound too cynical, but implementing a new Windows OS is a challenge. If you intend to use Vista sooner rather than later, get started learning about it now. The head start might relieve a lot of headaches later.

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/50448/Windows_50448.html
 
YAY! found out how to change the desktop icon size :D all you have to do is right click on the desktop then go view and select large, medium or classic. If you have a scroll wheel then on the desktop hold down ctrl and scroll up or down to get the size you want :D. using scroll wheel is easier as you can have any size.
 
I just noticed that it says in Vista that i have 12 days left to activate it. I didnt think it would need to be activated as its not released yet. If i do does anyone have a serial key i can use cos the one i got doesnt work.

Edit: Here is a good tweak guide for Vista beta builds :D It says how to disable the UAC (user account control) security we were talking about. Or you can change it so its enabled but you dont get all the annoying pop-ups :)

http://www.vistamania.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=399&Itemid=34
 
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