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Old 03-22-2006, 03:59 PM   #1081 (permalink)
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Yeah wait until its correct. Don't do a troditional microsoft and bring it out early and mess up
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so does that mean the g80 and r580 will also be delayed because they support DX10?? jesus...2007... ahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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so does that mean the g80 and r580 will also be delayed because they support DX10?? jesus...2007... ahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it will be out in jan 2009

the reason it is being delayed doesn't have anything to do with it not being ready.

it has to do with the government (mainly the british government) complaining that's it too secure. they had made it so that nobody could unencrypt the encrypted files. but a lot of high ranking people don't like that feature

so MS has to go back to the drawing board and make it so that the governments can unencrypt those files
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so does that mean the g80 and r580 will also be delayed because they support DX10?? jesus...2007... ahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
R580 is already out, it is X1900, and it just support DX9.0. R600 (and g80 aswell) are the ones going to support DX10
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so does that mean the g80 and r580 will also be delayed because they support DX10?? jesus...2007... ahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone get the tranqs...
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R580 is already out, it is X1900, and it just support DX9.0. R600 (and g80 aswell) are the ones going to support DX10
yea sorry i couldnt remember for ATI.....
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According to bink.nu who cites an unknown Microsoft Employee from the Windows Vista Newsgroups, a new build of Windows Vista is due today.

Paul Thurrott has confirmed the build as 5342 and release date over on his FAQ for Vista pages.

The new build is expected to be released to testers on Connect later today and MSDN subscribers.

Windows Vista suffered its latest delay this week as Microsoft announced Vista will not be available for OEM's and Retail outlets until January 2007. This huge set back and re-organisation of the Windows Client Division will cause significant issues for OEM's and Businesses.
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60% Of Windows Vista Code To Be Rewritten

David Richards - Friday, 24 March 2006

Up to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft new Vista operating system is set to be rewritten as the Company "scrambles" to fix internal problems a Microsoft insider has confirmed to SHN.

In an effort to meet a dealine of the 2007 CES show in Las Vegas Microsoft has pulled programmers from the highly succesful Xbox team to help resolve many problems associated with entertainment and media centre functionality inside the OS. The team are also working closely with engineers from the Intel Viiv team. and it is now expected that the next version of Viiv could be delayed to line up with the launch of the consumer version of Vista at the 2007 CES Show in Las Vegas.

One of the key components of the consumer version of Vista is the Media Centre code. This will be an optional package in the same way that Microsoft currently sell a Professional and Home version of XP. With Vista there will not be a seperate Media Centre SKU.

Microsoft has also admitted that it has major problems in it's Windows division and has has immediatly initiated a total restructure of the division, a move that comes after a costly delay in rolling out its Vista program.

The company has said that it is restructuring its Platforms & Services Division and 'enhancing' the leadership team. At the heart of the changes is the elevation of Steven Sinofsky to senior vice president of the Windows and Windows Live Group. 'Steven`s leadership, management and technical skills are well documented and evident in the kinds of products he ships and the type of work environment he creates,' said Ray Ozzie, Microsoft`s chief technology officer.

'I`m looking forward to working with Steven and his team in delivering software-based services that extend the value of our offerings by providing a more seamless connection between our desktop products and the Web.' Analysts estimate that Microsoft`s delays in releasing the next generation of its operating system, known as Vista, have cost it about $500 million.

An internal memo written by Kevin Johnson the Co-President of the Windows division has revealed the changes that the Windows division faces. The text of the memo follows:

"Aligning PSD for Growth and Agility."

From: Kevin Johnson
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:01 AM
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Subject: Aligning PSD for Growth and Agility


Since taking on my new role last September, I've spent quite a bit of time focused on how best to position the Platforms and Services Division (PSD) for the future. I want to share with you some of that thinking and some new changes we are undertaking today.

We continue to see a strong wave of innovation from Microsoft making its way to market. PSD is a big part of this wave. The recent launches from our Server and Tools business, including SQL Server 2005, Visual Studio 2005, BizTalk 2006 and Windows Server R2, have been well received by customers and partners, and the team is now focused on Longhorn Server. The Windows client team continues to drive forward on Windows Vista with the latest CTP that was released in February. The MSN division continues to deliver new innovation such as Live Mail, Live Messenger, our constantly improving search offerings and many other Windows Live offerings. MSN itself has enabled new channels and content and continues to expand. All of these product and service releases are evidence of a strong wave of innovation and momentum in the market.

Over the last few months, I've made it a priority to listen to what's on people's minds. I have had the opportunity to conduct more than one hundred 1:1's and have met with over 2,000 of you at all-hands meetings and roundtables. Not surprisingly some common themes have emerged. Your questions, concerns and feedback, taken together with the dialogue within our leadership team pointed to the need to address three key questions for our division:

What are the next steps for advancing our vision of software + services?

Are there growth opportunities upon which we should be more focused? How can we be more agile?

As our current product pipeline hits the market, it's a good time to lay the foundation for the future of PSD. I have been working with Jim Allchin and other PSD leaders to establish an organization that positions us for the future. This has been a very collaborative process and we have considered many options. The PSD organization changes we are announcing today are driven by the following objectives which are rooted in the input I've received from so many of you:

1. Software + Services: Position for the next wave of innovation relative to our vision for Windows Live. Ray Ozzie and I continue to work closely to advance the Live vision announced last November. End-to-end scenarios that enable seamless experiences across client, server, and services are critical for all customers, and Windows Vista + Windows Live begins to address this vision. Utilizing services as a distribution vehicle for user experiences enables us to embrace the concept of software + service and deliver innovation to market faster. Doing this requires us to think about the Windows Live platform as a key to the value proposition we deliver to developers. These changes provide clear connections with Ray and his team to help shape the Live platform, Live experiences and the marketing that supports Windows Live.

2. Growth: Focus on the key growth opportunities ahead of us, specifically online advertising, emerging markets, and enterprise computing infrastructure. Our Server & Tools business has shown strong growth over the last few years, and has great opportunities to continue that momentum. Windows Client has growth opportunities in premium offerings, new solutions for emerging markets, and in reducing unlicensed PCs. Certainly the upcoming launch of Windows Vista will spark a new wave of growth across our broader industry and partner ecosystem. Analysts predict the online advertising industry will grow to $35B+ by 2008 which creates opportunity for our MSN and Windows Live businesses.

3. Agility: Lay the foundation for accelerating our pace of innovation, including focusing on ways to improve clarity of decision making, drive greater accountability, and reduce layers in the organization so we can move faster. It also means utilizing existing expertise within the division to embrace services -- and rapid release cycles that services can enable -- to all aspects of our business. Our software + service approach and the expertise we have built in MSN can support innovation agility as we enable the Live era.

As part of the next step of Jim's transition, we discussed when it was appropriate to move his direct reports to me, and decided that this organization change was the right time. Jim's overall partnership role with me in running PSD will not be changing.


The PSD leadership team I've put in place to align against these key objectives includes:


Steven Sinofsky, SVP Engineering, Windows and Windows Live Group
Brian Valentine, SVP COSD
Blake Irving, CVP, Windows Live Platform Group
David Cole, SVP, Online Business Group
Yusuf Mehdi, SVP, Chief Advertising Strategist
Mike Sievert, CVP Windows Client Marketing
Will Poole, SVP Market Expansion Group
Bob Muglia, SVP Server and Tools Business Group
Sanjay Parthasarathy, CVP Developer and Platform Evangelism
Brent Callinicos, CFO and CVP Finance Group
Rick Thompson, CVP supporting a special assignment
Darryn Dieken, Technical Assistant
Brian "Skip" Schipper, GM Human Resources
Mary Snapp, CVP and Deputy General Counsel, Legal and Corporate Affairs

I know change is never easy but I truly appreciate the focus that people throughout PSD have on innovation and the wave of products and services our team is delivering to the marketplace is impressive. These changes are intended to help us increase our agility, embrace the concept of software + services, and position us for an exciting future together.

Let's continue to impress customers and partners with our innovation, and drive satisfaction to levels we've never achieved before. Let's also stay focused on our priorities as we make this transition and align our organization for the future.

For those of you who will be on campus in Redmond on Friday, March 24, I hope you can join me in person, in B33/McKinley Room, from 10:00 - 11:00am. The meeting will start promptly at 10:00 a.m., so please plan on arriving a few minutes early to ensure you get a seat.

I hope everyone else will watch the webcast, which will be streamed live on the intranet and archived there for later viewing. Whether you attend in person or via the Net, you can submit your questions to execqa@microsoft.com before the meeting begins. Thank you for your contribution and your continued focus on innovation and our customers.

Kevin
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Yeah, I'm sure Microsoft is real concerned about a $500-mil cost.

Anyway, let'em delay all they want. If it's not gonna come out till next year, so be it. The XP and Server2k3 environments are running reasonably well, and plenty well enough to hold out till 2007. Let them take the time to get things right.
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We have good news to report (when don't we?) Windows Vista Build 5342 has just been released to both testers and MSDN subscribers.

The Download is now available vis-*-vis Microsoft Connect under the downloads page. More good news, Build 5342 is once again available for both X86 and X64 users.

It is not yet known what the new featues in this build are or if it is the official Beta 2, however we will be updating this article with more information as soon as it is released.
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