Ok, Ive got to get my *** to bed so here is what has happened so far. He has a Dell, the drivers for his system are on the c: drive, the root of it, called drivers. I had him copy them to a cd because he was trying to format but couldnt because the xp cd couldnt see his hard drives because it doesnt have the drivers for it installed. So I had him put the storage drivers on a floppy, reboot, instal the xp cd, hit F6, then when prompted, insert the floppy for the ultra ata storage so the install can see his drives. If this doesnt work, he will need to slip them into his xp cd using nLite. I know Eric knows how to do it, I do to but I'm going to bed. If the floppy way doesnt work, he will need to use Nlite. Unless someone knows of another way. Anyways, if this doesnt get taken care of, I will reply on how to do it when I get up. its 4:17 am here. Ok. that didnt work, I gave him instructions and the guide on how to do this so he should be good to go.