Stating XPpro - Techist - Tech Forum

Go Back   Techist - Tech Forum > Computer Software > Microsoft Windows and Software
Click Here to Login
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 12-11-2006, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
Super Techie
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 361
Default Stating XPpro

I have an interesting story. In the course of testing software I have had to re-install XPpro/SP2 with IE7 several times.

I normally did this ny reformatting in full the drive & doing full re-installation. But I found that some software did not behave properly and occasionally XP would start up then half way through the start process the computer would quickly shutdown.

I used such as debug, last known good configuration, and safe mode and I couldn't resolve the problem.

In the back of my mind was a comment that a re-format might leave residual bits on the drive might corrupt some part of the installation.

So I used an eraser program (MicroScope Eraser Disk) to wipe my drive completely with a triple scan which took 4 hours to do!

I reformatted and re-installed XPpro/SP2 and 45 programs and now have no problems whatsoever.

Has anyone had similar problems?
__________________

D.Arbib is offline  
Old 12-11-2006, 11:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
Techie Beyond Description
 
Osiris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 36,817
Send a message via ICQ to Osiris Send a message via AIM to Osiris Send a message via MSN to Osiris Send a message via Yahoo to Osiris
Default

not at all, just a fluke
__________________

__________________
Osiris is offline  
Old 12-11-2006, 11:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
Chillin Techie
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 11,861
Default

you probably had a boot sector virus. that why I use powermax quick erase to wipe my drives before I install xp
__________________
The Ultimate Hard Drive Utility PowerMax 4.23. (It now has the ability to clean a Boot Sector virus on the quick erase option.)
The best browser Netscape 8
Have you accidently delete something? Look here (trial. the better one) and here(free)
EricB is offline  
Old 12-12-2006, 09:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
Hiphopapotamus.
 
b0dge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Location: Posts: 61,784
Posts: 557
Default

Heh, A friends laptop had a boot sector virus. I had that thing in my house for about four weeks before i finally wiped the HDD completely (after about twenty XP installs!).

I wish I was a member here then!!
__________________
Don't ask questions, just click my rep tick. Now.
b0dge is offline  
Old 12-12-2006, 11:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
Super Techie
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 361
Default

Boot virus? Well, possibly, but

1. Don't a/v programs catch such viruses?
2. Souldn't a reformat destroy the virus?

I am still of the opinion that re-formatting leaves some junk on the drive which can cause very odd corruption of some but not all programs. Indeed I have been told there are programs that can extract information from formatted drives.
D.Arbib is offline  
Old 12-12-2006, 12:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
Chillin Techie
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 11,861
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by D.Arbib
Boot virus? Well, possibly, but

1. Don't a/v programs catch such viruses?
2. Souldn't a reformat destroy the virus?

I am still of the opinion that re-formatting leaves some junk on the drive which can cause very odd corruption of some but not all programs. Indeed I have been told there are programs that can extract information from formatted drives.
1. not necessarily
2.no.

it resides in the one part of the hdd that isn't formatted. the 7.8 mb part which contain the boot sector and the partition table. window's tools don't touch this part (fix mbr does) so reinstalling windows will never fix it, but powermax will shred the data on the first 300mb and the last last 100mb of every hdd while quick erasing the rest of it with it's quick erase feature.

I've fix many of computers with your exact problem with powermax.
__________________
The Ultimate Hard Drive Utility PowerMax 4.23. (It now has the ability to clean a Boot Sector virus on the quick erase option.)
The best browser Netscape 8
Have you accidently delete something? Look here (trial. the better one) and here(free)
EricB is offline  
Old 12-12-2006, 05:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
LA1
Super Techie
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: eastcoast
Posts: 453
Default

You ought to install windows , drivers etc , then make an image onto a cd or dvd, much much easier to reinstall. or do the above and install the programs too and make an image onto a dvd or multiple DVD's.

Sounds like you had "winfixer" on your pc. Nasty program , I had a customers pc that was infected qwith this it would post and start to boot , till it started to read the system files then the pc would shut down just like the plug was pulled.
__________________
LA1 is offline  
Old 12-12-2006, 06:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
Super Techie
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 361
Default

Thanks,

Don't have winfixer. Don't quite uderstand "fix mbr" mentioned above.

I still can't get clarification of what is left on a drive after a full reformat. I have asked Microsoft directly for comment,
D.Arbib is offline  
Old 12-12-2006, 07:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
Chillin Techie
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 11,861
Default

see the blank part of the hard drives? this is the partition table and boot sector (or mbr). notice how it doesn't have anything to do with the partitioned part, so deleting the partition does nothing to it. ms intentionally did that

__________________
The Ultimate Hard Drive Utility PowerMax 4.23. (It now has the ability to clean a Boot Sector virus on the quick erase option.)
The best browser Netscape 8
Have you accidently delete something? Look here (trial. the better one) and here(free)
EricB is offline  
Old 12-12-2006, 07:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
Super Techie
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 361
Default

So if mbr is corrupted by a virus, are you saying it cannot be deleted or just that in a reformat it is not deleted?
__________________

D.Arbib is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.