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Old 03-19-2004, 01:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Ares

It came on my HP so thats why I have it. (Free for a while...)
What have you had luck with, firewall or virusscan?

Also, if a virus is hidden in a program file, does the program have to be clicked on to execute the virus?
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Old 03-19-2004, 01:06 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i have norton antivirus...n it caught a few viruses, it works for me!

whats the dif between 2004 and 2003 norton?
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Old 03-19-2004, 01:59 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hey if it's free, you can't argue with that. Try it out and see if you like it and if it works for you.

I'm really cautious about viruses, so luckily i've only come across two in my time, both were trojans that i downloaded in zip file format that were attached to 2 different irc-scripts. Since i didn't open them (never open something without scanning it first) they were just sitting dormant hoping to run amok. Mcafee found them, quarantined them and i got rid of the files immediately.

As a general rule, and a bit of personal habit, whenever i download something i stick it in a certain folder where files await scanning (if i don't have my scanner already scanning things as i download them - i dont remember if norton does that or not).

As for firewalls, i've had good results with mcafee's firewall, which i had to install on a friend's pc in order to clean it (it had viruses that her kids had downloaded looking at free porn) and once i had the firewall up i found the pc was getting routinely attacked by two different ips on certain days of the week (lagging the connection and probably getting into the system too). With the firewall & virus scanner, the system was cleaned and the security of the connection was restored. Their "backdoor" was closed and the attacks on the ports were stopped.

On my own pc, and the ones i'm building, i'm running mcafee virus scan and putting up the firewall. It works for me.
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Old 03-19-2004, 03:39 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Thanks a lot Ares

So you DO have to click on the file to start the virus. Good.

Norton tried to delete the virus (disguised as "sygate firewall pro" from a previous shareaza download) but it was on a CD I used to backup downloads.

I threw the CD away, but I was very concerned the virus already got on my PC. I never clicked it, it was just recognized by Norton then I shut Down right away. I also scanned (Norton) for an hour and it found no virus on my HDD.

I keep my PC VERY clean, always run a firewall, check spyware, run sysinfo tools, but now I will ALWAYS run a virusscan also.

THANKS again. Any more info, please reply...
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Old 03-19-2004, 10:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Well with Mcafee there's two ways you can do it. I do it one of either depending on my situation. One way is to scan the file specifically. You just right click on the file and Mcafee is integrated into the windows shell. So when you right click you'll see an option to "Scan with Mcafee". This allows McAfee to scan the file and only the file, if you suspect a certain file of being contaminated. The other way, if you're downloading lots of things or have a bunch of things to scan, is to make a habit of always putting your new downloads in a certain folder (for me, i have a folder called NEWSTUFF located in MYDOCS). I download things and after i reach a certain amount of files, or when i have the time, i open McAfee and use the folder selector thingie to scan everything in my NEWSTUFF folder at one time.

On the two occasions i found trojans in my system, they were files i had downloaded a few days before actually scanning. As a general rule, as long as you don't open the file you're safe, although i'm no virus expert. I'm sure there are some viruses that would contaminate your system as soon as they are introduced into it (read about some of the worms doing that through your browser & email attachments).

I'd say, keep your Norton virus definition files updated and do routine scans. You should be ok.

Be careful with those filesharing programs. Use their automatic virus scanning utilities if they have them. I know kazaa has one of those... but then again i'm not a big fan of kazaa either lol.

Glad to help and offer my input. It's the least i can do to return the favor and contribute. A lot of people here have helped me out as well.
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Old 03-20-2004, 08:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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THANKS a lot.

The dang virus chewed up TWO computers after I put the disc into them and ran the "firewall". One is now perfectly healthy but the old Toshiba laptop isn't: can't find the restore CD as it's about five years old.

THANKS again for the info. Once Norton runs out (90 days) I'll probably buy a McAfee subscription. I'll never live a day again without protection. ...?
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