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Old 02-11-2006, 11:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a problem with my laptop. It came from Japan with a pre-installed operating system (windows95 japanese version). I tried to update it with windows98se but It is not compatible because the system is japanese. I reformat the system using dos environment but I think it caused the system to crash. Whenever I restart the laptop I encounter a " No System File " message. I can't reinstall any OS because of the problem. I tried to use bootable win98se cd english version but it can't read the cd the problem always occurs. I also tried to use the startup disk of win98 but "No System File " always occurs. Can you help me pls.?
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you need to fdisk the partition which means delete it and then make a new partition and then format it to put 98 on it
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I can't do that because I can't enter in the system. After the system initialized the error "No System File" occured. I have no chance of entering dos or installing a new operating system. Also I can't enter the CMOS maybe its because the laptop is from japan. Do you know how can I get to the CMOS to configure my system. Properly or maybe the CMOS will be on Japanese language also? Do I need to convert the language of the pc?
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do you have a flopy drive?
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yes, and a cd - rom
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go to www.bootdisk.com and create a windows 98 bootdisk.
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http://www.troyedwards.com/downloads...sks/boot98.exe

download that file, insert a floppy, execute the exe, it will write to the floppy, then boot from it and follow the tutorial below:

*******FDISK Tutorial*******

FDISK Tutorial


The Basics of Fdisk:
Primary partitions are the only one that are bootable. They're always the C: drive when active. Normally you can only have one (more with some special tricks etc.) Extended partitions are needed when you want more than one partition. You can only have ONE Extended partition. Logical Drives come into the Extended partition. They are handy since you know that you can only have one Primary and one Extended so you can get more than only two partitions. They would be your D:, E:, etc. drives.

First you need to reboot your system with the Boot Disk inserted.

1.At the A: prompt start "FDISK."

2.If asked to use Large Disc support say Yes.

3.The first screen looks like this:

Create Dos Partition or Logical Drive
Set Active Partition
Delete Partitions or Logical DOS Drives
Display Partition Information
Change current fixed drive. (In case you have two or more Hard Drivess)
So, to prepare you hopefully did a backup from your data. You did, didn't you ?!

4.Next we need to remove the existing partitions. So go to 3.

5.Next screen like this:

Delete Primary DOS
Delete Extended DOS
Delete Logical Drives
Delete Non-DOS
Delete always in the following order

Logical (All) > Extended > Primary (Last)

6.Go back to first screen after all partitions have been removed.

7.Now we need to setup our new partitions. Go to 1.

This screen looks like this:

Create Primary DOS
Create Extended DOS
Create Logical DOS Drives
Here we create in the following order

Primary > Extended > Logical Drives.

8.First create the Primary. If asked to use all space say No and enter the amount you wish for the C: drive. It should be set automatically to be the (only) Active partition. If not it may ask you or you have to select "2. Set active partition" from the main menu.

9.Next create the Extended Partition. Use all space left.

It probably advances automatically to the next step, creating the Logical DOS Drives.

10.Enter the amount you wish for the D: partition and than the rest for the third partition.

Think first about the size for the partitions.

OK now we're finished with FDISK so just exit it. Next you need to reboot with the disc still inserted and Format all partitions (the C: partition might need to be formatted with "format c: /s", check the Win95 tip). Another reboot and you can go ahead and install Windows.
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Okay I'll try that your suggestion maybe theres a problem on my bootdisk. Thanks in advance. Maybe if that doesn't work I can still count on you to help me next time. I can test your suggestion right now because I don't have my laptop here.
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I have a problem with my laptop. It came from Japan with a pre-installed operating system (windows95 japanese version). I tried to update it with windows98se but It is not compatible because the system is japanese. I reformat the system using dos environment but I think it caused the system to crash. Whenever I restart the laptop I encounter a " No System File " message. I can't reinstall any OS because of the problem. I tried to use bootable win98se cd english version but it can't read the cd the problem always occurs. I also tried to use the startup disk of win98 but "No System File " always occurs. Can you help me pls.?
what brand of laptop is it, hiroshima?
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