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Old 08-25-2004, 04:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Agreed, that what short pipe lines will do to ya AMD Hippies !
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Very true (the heat issue)...

I have a friend with an Athlon xp3200+
Now, the performance is pretty close to equal to my p4 2.8ht...
but his runs at 150-160F, whereas mine idle's at 88F and gets to 120F when I'm pushing it. I've never gotten over 123F except that one time
I forgot to put thermal paste on....hehe.... oops.
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Old 08-25-2004, 04:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Man you guys are rough on your processors. Mines overclocked and still around 100F. You need to LOVE your processor and it will LOVE you back.
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Old 08-25-2004, 04:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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*Tell your friend this*

AMD has shorter pipelines than Intel. Therefore they do not need as high of a frequency. Obviously he will have no clue what that means... So tell him this...:

Intel: One car drives down a 100 ft. street at 20 km/h
AMD: One car drives down a 50 ft. street at 10 km/h

Both cars are going to reach the end at the sametime, regardless of speed.
thats a good way to say it, but it doesnt show another part of the pipeline stages . . .

in that example, the amd and intel will reach their destination at the same time . . .

that would be in a perfect world . . .

but its not a perfect world . . .

in the pipelines, little bubbles show up (empty instructions), and when they reach the end of the pipeline, it makes the entire instuction cycle after that to start over . . .

pentium has 20 stages, athlon has 12 . . .

P4 : i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i

AMD: i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i > i

obviously, if the chain has to start all over, athlon has the advantage since it has less ground to cover
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Agreed, that what short pipe lines will do to ya AMD Hippies !
Sure the Athlon XP might heat up in most cases, but the Athlon 64 are extremely cool, even cooler than a Northwood and uses less than half the power of a P4 Prescott.
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well i'd rather have a hot chip and put a good heatsink on it that have a cpu that takes forever to do stuff
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yeh the heat problem is a little ineffiecent, just thing of all that energy loss, no wonder my laptop battery only lasts and hour and a half
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well thats a laptop . . .

for laptops, i ALWAYS go intel . . .
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Old 08-25-2004, 05:22 PM   #29 (permalink)
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ah but i wanted a 64bit processor... and the heat problem is inefficient wether its a laptop or desktop, altho i guess it means you can have fans with pretty colors or a nice cooling fluid that reacts with ultra violet for the more wealthy
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ah but i wanted a 64bit processor... and the heat problem is inefficient wether its a laptop or desktop, altho i guess it means you can have fans with pretty colors or a nice cooling fluid that reacts with ultra violet for the more wealthy
did you get the mobile 64?
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