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Old 05-31-2005, 06:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Its not a monopoly at all for a software maker to buy a hardware manufacturer or use them exclusively, see Apple for example, although Apple doesnt manufacture or own any hardware makers to my knowledge, they do prettymuch own and control the rights to the PPC chips they use.They also prettymuch control Adobe to a large degree.Some of the arguments mentioned above while picking nits so to speak, are picking the wrong nits.Microsoft like AMD and Intel are publicly traded companies, they have one responsibility and one responsibilty only, make $$ for their shareholders.

Windows desktop OS doesnt run on any architecture other than x86.They do already have essentially a monopoly, and they use it to.This is why theyve had so many antitrust suits, however, the FTC has been known on many occasions to overlook alot of mergers that technically violate antitrust laws, they might not stop something like microsoft buying a hardware maker.Microsoft has a huge on hand cash balance, as a major corporation thats not good, $$ does better when invested in order to make more $$, thats how you leverage things and turn a profit and promote growth.

The life cycle of windows as we know it is being threatened on many fronts, some of that is just due to fact that longhorn is taking sooooooooo long to come out and hardware is advancing way faster than they can keep up with, at some point microsoft will have to make some tough choices, if they dont someone else steps in and provides what they cant.If hardware becomes a cheap off the shelf commodity which is the way its looking, why would someone pay $100 for an OS to put in a machine that costs $75-$100?Especially if others offer it for free?

Of course its all just speculation, but I think its interesting to think about anyway.
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I don't think AMD would ever agree to that...
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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AMD like I said above is publicly traded company, they might not have a say in the matter, thats what it boils down to, once you go public and start selling stock you lose all control of your destiny, its called a hostile takeover when the board members dont want to be bought up, but unfortunately they dont always have the choice.When it comes right down to it, AMD is a very poorly managed company, great products for the most part, but poorly managed, and thats a serious vulnerability.
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i agree with you horndude, amd is very vulnerable
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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AMD like I said above is publicly traded company, they might not have a say in the matter, thats what it boils down to, once you go public and start selling stock you lose all control of your destiny, its called a hostile takeover when the board members dont want to be bought up, but unfortunately they dont always have the choice.When it comes right down to it, AMD is a very poorly managed company, great products for the most part, but poorly managed, and thats a serious vulnerability.
Well then that sucks. Why would microsoft want to buy them anyway?
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Old 05-31-2005, 07:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Because microsoft's livelihood is being threatened by progress on the hardware front, as hardware screams away at a furious pace way ahead of the software market it leaves large lumbering companies like microsoft vulnerable.In the past, hardware has always been a little ahead of software, but the gap has grown huge, at some point someone will exploit that and put a monopolistic company like microsoft in danger, they arent stupid, and they have power AND a huge huge bankroll.Right now I think its in the neighborhood of 70 billion in liquid cash., and thats after buying stock back like crazy which theyve done recently.Its bad practice to have a huge cash amount laying around as a corporation, some is ok, alot is bad, unlimited neverending growth is the key in business as a public company, sitting on assets like cash isnt good.If youve got large chunks of unused money around it means you arent doing what you can to grow as fast as possible, thats a sign of weakness in the business world.The right sharks come along smelling all that blood in the water so to speak and it means trouble.
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Old 05-31-2005, 07:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Well let them have intel for all I care.
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:43 AM   #18 (permalink)
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MS is all about the money. AMD makes alot of it. If MS bought AMD for some money, and then showed a huge return, dont you think that is incentive enough?
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Theres always ibm 0.o.
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