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Old 05-01-2005, 08:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well I would highly recomend looking at overclocking, it's becoming a good option, a 2.0GHZ 3200+ can pretty easily do 3.0ghz which is up and above an FX-55

Yeah no DDR2, and a 3200+ or a 3500+ and overclocking is a better idea, even if you fry 1 3200+, you still have enough money to buy another one comapred to getting 1x 4000+

And the chance of frying it is zero to slim if you use a little brains
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Old 05-01-2005, 08:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thermaltake VB1000SNS Soprano Case
AMD athlon 64 3200+ winchester (there's almost no difference between 3200 and 4000)
DFI lanparty ultra-d
ocz dual channel optimized platinum 2x512mb 2-3-2-5
1.44mb high density floppy
seagate barracuda 7200.8 200gb SATA
eVGA 6800GT
NEC 3520A
Zalman 7700-cu
OCZ Powerstream 420W
Microsoft Multimedia mouse+keyboard
addition $50 if you want everything to be assembled by them (if you don't feel comfortable building it yourself)

TOTAL:$1886

IMO that computer is enough for anything already and is VERY overclocking capable (eventually you'll become more interested in OCing i bet)

of course, that leaves a lil more than $700 which you can either save for future upgrades or blow it on an upgrade to dfi lanparty ultra-d SLI mobo along with another eVGA 6800GT to put them in SLI mode (unnecessary unless you got the money to blow)

of course, there might be better ram than that, but i' think it's pretty good for OCing (canadians should be much more famliliar with ncix than me)
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Dont get the Winchester, wait for the Venice
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Dont get the Winchester, wait for the Venice
yea, that too
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The venice is out on ncix already. And I would get the Thermaltake Tsunami for like $35 more - aluminum.

The "ocz dual channel optimized platinum 2x512mb 2-3-2-5".. hmm.. Don't know the performance specs. Think this unit can hit 250 fsb on stock settings and be stable 24/7? I'd like to know this myself. Anyone have these sticks? When I say 24/7, I mean 24/7.. And not for 30 minutes just to take a bench, like some guys do on forums.

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errr.. why do u say this dude?
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you can't feel the difference between them

the 3200 is way more OC-able than the 4000 and can easily pass 4k speeds
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Well, by the same reasoning, why can't u just "overclock" the 4000+ to beat the crap out of the "overclocked" 3200+? Sure, the 3200+ when overclocked might beat the STOCK 4000+. But not if u overclock both!. Not a fair comparison IMO.

But I agree that we probably can't feel the difference in current apps. But, in another year, probably ..

Having never owned a 4000+, I don't know how well it overclocks. Got any benchmarks to say the 4000+ is less overclockable dude?
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In a 3200+ venice and a 4000+ on air cooling, I believe the 3200+ has a good chance of reaching much higher than a 4000+

It's artechture, 4000+ is clawhammer or newcastle.
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wow, no offense (this is your first time bulding anyways), but there is a lot of things wrong with that buld IMO
So far you've only told me that ram is wrong...? I dont see much else wrong.

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there's almost no difference between 3200 and 4000
I disagree, I've looked at benchmarks and they say something different. I'm not looking at this as which is more OCable.

Below are my new specs. This satisfies me, and it fits my budget.
I'm not going to OC but perhaps later down the road i will. If you have any more advise for me, I would like to hear it. Thnx guys
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Motherboard: MSI K8N NEO4-Platinum(MS-7125-010) nForce 4 Ultra Chipset S939 1PCI-Ex16/4+2PCI/4DDR
CPU: AMD® Athlon™ 64 4000+ (2.4GHz) Socket-939 1MB Box
Video Card : eVGA E-GEFORCE 6800GT 256M TV-OUT & DVI PCI-E VIDEO CARD
DVD-ROM: Pioneer DVR-109 internal 16x16 DVD±RW drive (OEM)
Monitor: (19in CRT)??
Hardrive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 160GB 8MB SATA
Memory: 1GB(2x512MB) PC3200 400Mhz 184pin DDR (OCZ OCZ400512V3)
Floppy: 1.44mb Panasonic Floppy Drive
Keyboard: Fujitsu 8729 PS2 keyboard
Speaker Altec Lansing VS4121
Case: Antec ViewplusAMG 1000
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