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Old 05-23-2005, 09:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question is there a superior hard drive?

im in the market for a new hard drive and they all look like the same thing tech spec's, anyways. like 7200 rpm. the only difference im really seeing is the price..

like im getting 2 160gb sata drives.
the ones that are catching my eye right now is-

a western digital - $105.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144178

and

some "hitachi deskar" - $84
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145072



and also this refirbished maxtor "diamondmax plus 9" - $72
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16822144322R



any oppinions?
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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you should get the Western Digital Raptor. its got 10,000 rpm and 74 gigs I believe. That's the fastest thing out there and its only about 170 bucks on newegg
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maxtor sucks

IMO seagates are the most reliable and quietest

oh, and SATA transfers info at 1.5gb/sec, while SATAII transfers at 3gb/sec

but your board has to support SATAII in order to fully utilize these SATAII HDD's
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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yea but im shooting for a **** load of space.
lol thats why im getting 2 160gb sata drives. 320gb
and daaayme thats expensive.
1 of those costs almost as much as 2 of these big drives.
but i really dunno much about this.. like would u recommend it for me?
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maxtor sucks

IMO seagates are the most reliable and quietest

oh, and SATA transfers info at 1.5gb/sec, while SATAII transfers at 3gb/sec

but your board has to support SATAII in order to fully utilize these SATAII HDD's

The maxtor diamond max use liquid bearings and are far quieter than the segate counterpart.. They also benchmark right along with raptor drives.. (Search google for some benchmarks) .. However, the diamondmaxs have been out for less than a year.. so theres no way to tell how reliable they are in the long run.

The sata/SataII standards dont matter.. I've yet to see a drive that can bench more than 70-80mb/s by itself.. slap 4 of them in a machine and its still well under the 1.5gb transfer limit..

Something cool about raptors is that they have 2 heads and allow simultaneous read/write..

However i think its a waste of money compared to what you get out of an 80gb 7200rpm 8mb cache WD drive..
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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hmm.. well im buying these drives to put together a whole new computer. im a complete newbie, this is my first.

this is my rig at the moment, its already on my newegg wishlist.

-Abit "AN8" NVIDIA nForce4 Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL -motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-127-197&depa=1
$145.00

-AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor - Retail (core is a winchester) -cpu
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-103-502&depa=1
$190.00

-Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail -RAM
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-145-450&depa=1
$115.00

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS PCI Sound Card, Model "SB0350" -RETAIL -sound card
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-102-162&depa=1
$93.00

Rosewill ATI Radeon X800XL Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI, PCI-Express, Model "RX8XL-256PX"-RETAIL -video card
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-164-041&depa=1
$284.99

XCLIO XClio-jr CS428BK Silver/Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811201003
$40.49

Antec 480 watt 120mm fan ATX 12V v2.0 power supply, Active PFC, Model "NeoPower" - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...-103-924&depa=1
$116.00


-$975



what do u guys figure?
hard drive wise too lol
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The maxtor diamond max use liquid bearings and are far quieter than the segate counterpart.. They also benchmark right along with raptor drives.. (Search google for some benchmarks) .. However, the diamondmaxs have been out for less than a year.. so theres no way to tell how reliable they are in the long run.

The sata/SataII standards dont matter.. I've yet to see a drive that can bench more than 70-80mb/s by itself.. slap 4 of them in a machine and its still well under the 1.5gb transfer limit..

Something cool about raptors is that they have 2 heads and allow simultaneous read/write..

However i think its a waste of money compared to what you get out of an 80gb 7200rpm 8mb cache WD drive..
You mean 70 to 80 mega BYTES not bits (B not b)

1.5 Gigabit is per channel anyways

Maxtor are far less reliable than seagate, maxtor are crap. Hihatci (IBM) hard drives have imrpoved, but that hard drive is still named "deathstar"

Western Digital or Seagate is your best bet.
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Check out these

Audio: M-audio revolution 7.1 (creative sucks)

Video: Geforce 6800gt/ultra

Motherboard: Gigabyte k8ns-ultra, k8nsxp, or msi neo2 or neo4 (neo 4 may be an intel board, i forget what their next line up from the neo2 is)

RAM: i have some of that corsair ram at work that we cant get rid of (because no one wants ram with LEDS.. we dont sell many gaming computers)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145466

im sure my boss would be willing to beat that price.. We got stuck with it after we had ordered the wrong stuff for a customer.. He wanted to corsair xms memory with the LED pad on the top that you can make scroll words/sentences.

Also, you're going to want the amd 64 3200 venice chip.. It gets better overclocks than anything prior to it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535



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MB mb Mb mB ... whatever =p
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itll be yeaaars till i start with overclocking, so i doubt i really need a major one right now.
and yea dude thatd be awesome, where do u work? is it an online store? and what price would you be talking about?

and what do u guys think about the audio and video cards being suggested?
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www.advanceddesignky.com

we build mostly pro-video and pro-audio workstations.. If you wanted to pick up that ram you'd have to call in to order, its not something that is listed on the website.

859-635-5762 ask for tom (me) or scott (the owner).. Just tell him i told you about the ram and that you wanted to see if you could pick it up cheaper than newegg.. he does stuff like that a lot to get rid of stock that we wont ever sell otherwise..
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