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Old 02-25-2005, 04:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default OK which system should I get????

OK I am thinking about buying a new system tomorrow. SO i hope I get some replies tonight!


OK so here are the two configs I made up.

Things that are important to me in my computer is:

10000 RPM RAID config

PCIe

and 800mhz FSB

Some things I am tossed up about is:

DDR2 vs DDR???

AMG 929pin vs intel 775pin ???

and going 64bit vs NO 64 bit...??


Processor speed as long as its 2.4ghrz And up is ok with me... I dont think clocking is that big a deal really.


With that in mind... these are the two configs I have made up....

This one has intel 3gig
and the mb supports ddr2 AND ddr...

and I am thinking about installing 512ddr2 in this set up. Its a little bit more expensive too.. then the second config.


also for another 40$ I could upgrade the CPU to be 64bit???
SO I want some opinions on that...


Intel Pentium 4 PCI Express Configurator (NO MONITOR):
*BASE_PRICE: [+579]
2ND_USB: Build-in USB 2.0 Ports
CAS: TURBO X-INFINITY Case 420W W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (SILVER COLOR)
CD: NONE
CDRW: CD-RW 52X32X52 (SILVER COLOR [+9])
CASUPGRADE: NONE
CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 530 CPU w/HT Technology 3.0GHZ 800FSB 1MB Cache [+0]
COUPON: FREE $20 MOVIELINK COUPON, DOWNLOAD UP TO 10 FREE MOVIES [+0]
CABLE: None
FLASHMEDIA: None
FAN: INTEL LGA775 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
FLOPPY: 1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE (SILVER COLOR [+7])
HDD: Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache WD360GD [+71]
HDD2: Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache WD360GD [+129]
IEEE_CARD: NONE
KEYBOARD: PS2 MULTIMEDIA INTERNET CONTROL KEYBOARD (SILVER COLOR [+3])
MOUSE: PS2 INTERNET MOUSE W/ WHEEL (SILVER COLOR [+0])
MSGAME1: NONE
MSGAME2: NONE
MSGAME3: NONE
MODEM: NONE [-7]
MP3PLAYER: NONE
MOTHERBOARD: (Req.DDR2/DDR1 RAM)Asus P5GD1 DELUXE I915G Chipset Sckt775 DDR2/533 PCI-E w/Audio,Gb LAN,IEEE,&USB2 [+55]
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)512MB PC4200 DDR2 MEMORY [+67]

MONITOR: NONE
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
OS: NONE - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
PRINTER: None
PRINTER_CABLE: None
POWERSUPPLY: STANDARD CASE POWER SUPPLY
RAID: RAID-0 (DATA STRIPPING) [+0]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SCANNER: NONE
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: 3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD
SPEAKERS: (SILVER)JUSTER NEON LIGHT SUBWOOFER STEREO SPEAKERS [+10]
SOFT1: NONE
SOFT2: NONE
TEMP: THERMAL TEMPERATURE LCD DISPLAY WITH 3X FAN CONTROLLER [+12] (SILVER COLOR [+0])
UPS: None
USB_PENDRIVE: NONE
VIDEO: NVIDIA Geforce 6600 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD [+82]
VIDEOCAMERA: NONE
WIRELESSPOINT: GENERIC WIRELESS 802.11B ACCESS POINT [+45]
WIRELESSCARD: PCI Wireless 802.11g 11Mbps Network Interface Card [+27]
ZIP: NONE
_PRICE: (+1089) <----


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OK second config:

this one is AMD 929 pin...

BUT non of the amd MB have DDR2 capabilities!

but it is a little cheaper...

ANd isnt this AMD cpu already 64bit???*I'm not sure*

Athlon 64 PCI-E Custom Build Configurator (NO MONITOR)
*BASE_PRICE: [+484]
2ND_USB: Build-in USB 2.0 Ports
CABLE: None
CAS: TURBO X-INFINITY Case 420W W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (SILVER COLOR)
CASUPGRADE: NONE
CPU: (939-pin) AMD ATHLON64 3000+ CPU w/ Hyper Transport Technology [+0]
CD: NONE
CDRW: CD-RW 52X32X52 (SILVER COLOR [+9])
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 6in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BEIGE COLOR)
FAN: AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
FLOPPY: NONE
HDD: Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache WD360GD [+71]
HDD2: Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache WD360GD [+129]
HALFLIFE2: Free "Half-Life 2 Bronze" Download Coupon [+0]
IEEE_CARD: NONE
KEYBOARD: PS2 MULTIMEDIA INTERNET CONTROL KEYBOARD (SILVER COLOR [+3])
MOUSE: PS2 INTERNET MOUSE W/ WHEEL (SILVER COLOR [+0])
MSGAME1: NONE
MSGAME2: NONE
MSGAME3: NONE
MODEM: NONE
MP3PLAYER: NONE
MOTHERBOARD: (939-pin Socket) Foxconn/WinFast NF4UK8AA-8EKRS nForce4 Chipset PCI-E w/LAN,USB,IEEE,&Audio [+13]
MEMORY: 512 MB PC3200 400MHz DDR MEMORY (Kingston Hyper-X High Performance Memory w/ Heat Spreader [+28])

MONITOR: NONE
NAPSTER: Free Napster Download Coupon [+0]
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
OS: NONE - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
PRINTER: None
PRINTER_CABLE: None
POWERSUPPLY: STANDARD CASE POWER SUPPLY
RAID: RAID-0 (DATA STRIPPING) [+0]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SCANNER: NONE
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT [-16]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: (SILVER)JUSTER NEON LIGHT SUBWOOFER STEREO SPEAKERS [+10]
SOFT1: NONE
SOFT2: NONE
TEMP: THERMAL TEMPERATURE LCD DISPLAY WITH 3X FAN CONTROLLER [+12] (SILVER COLOR [+0])
UPS: None
VIDEO: NVIDIA Geforce 6600 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD [+151]
VIDEO2: NONE
VIDEOCAMERA: NONE
WIRELESSPOINT: GENERIC WIRELESS 802.11B ACCESS POINT [+45]
WIRELESSCARD: PCI Wireless 802.11g 11Mbps Network Interface Card [+27]
ZIP: NONE
_PRICE: (+966) <---



Sooo... help me out here....


going with amd with DDR would save me overall about 150-200 bucks.. Plus I have heard amd is better for games??? This will be a gaming pc...


what do you think????
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Oh yeah for another 49 buck I could upgrade the video cards to 6600 GT 128 MB


Is that a good idea???
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Old 02-25-2005, 07:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah upgrade the video card for sure.

AMD may not have DDR-2 support but they are still on the top with memory peformance.

Also AMD do not really have a FSB

Personally I would go for the AMD, but PCI-E should not be that important for you. PCI-E has no speed advantage over AGP (unless running dual graphics cards) in the real world.
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I would avoid DDR 2 for the moment, as it is too epensive for the small speed gain you get over DDR ram. and the onboard memory controller on amd's gives them the performance gain over the ddr2.

get the 6600gt as the standard 6600 isnt worth the price.

I wouldnt get the foxconn motherboard, get ABit, ASUS, DFI or MSI.

I would go with the amd too. with the above adjustments.
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i would go with the amd, and upgrde to the 6600gt
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Go for the best man. Take out a home loan if you have too. Your computer is where you should live, make it nice.
Omg howd u know,..... I AM taking otu a huge loan to get his ocmputer.. but...

Man my computer is half my life.. *how sad*

but....


oooh a nice computer will last me a few more years...




and yeah Im gonna upgrade the mother board to asus and get the GT



with the AMD


IS the GT better? even though its 128MB insteasd of 256??
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OK i went for the plunge!!! this is what I settled with:


Athlon 64 PCI-E Custom Build Configurator (NO MONITOR)
www.cyberpowersystem.com/custom/cfga64pcie.asp

*BASE_PRICE: [+469]
2ND_USB: Build-in USB 2.0 Ports
CABLE: None
CAS: TURBO X-INFINITY Case 420W W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display
(SILVER COLOR)
CASUPGRADE: NONE
CPU: (939-pin) AMD ATHLON64 3000+ CPU w/ Hyper Transport Technology
[+0]
CD: NONE
CDRW: CD-RW 52X32X52 (SILVER COLOR [+9])
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 6in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (SILVER COLOR [+0])
FAN: AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
FLOPPY: NONE
HDD: Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache
WD360GD [+71]
HDD2: Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache
WD360GD [+129]
HALFLIFE2: Free "Half-Life 2 Bronze" Download Coupon [+0]
IEEE_CARD: NONE
KEYBOARD: PS2 MULTIMEDIA INTERNET CONTROL KEYBOARD (SILVER COLOR [+3])
MOUSE: PS2 INTERNET MOUSE W/ WHEEL (SILVER COLOR [+0])
MSGAME1: NONE
MSGAME2: NONE
MSGAME3: NONE
MODEM: NONE
MP3PLAYER: NONE
MOTHERBOARD: (Sckt939)ASUS A8N-SLI nForce4 SLI Chipset SATA RAID Dual
PCIE MB w/Gb-LAN,USB2.0,IEEE-1394,&7.1Audio [+72]
MEMORY: 512 MB PC3200 400MHz DDR MEMORY (Corsair XMS High Performance
Memory w/ Heat Spreader [+28])
MONITOR: NONE
NAPSTER: Free Napster Download Coupon [+0]
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
OS: NONE - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
PRINTER: None
PRINTER_CABLE: None
POWERSUPPLY: STANDARD CASE POWER SUPPLY
RAID: RAID-0 (DATA STRIPPING) [+0]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SCANNER: NONE
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME
TECHNICAL SUPPORT [-16]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: (SILVER)JUSTER NEON LIGHT SUBWOOFER STEREO SPEAKERS [+10]
SOFT1: NONE
SOFT2: NONE
TEMP: THERMAL TEMPERATURE LCD DISPLAY WITH 3X FAN CONTROLLER [+12]
(SILVER COLOR [+0])
UPS: None
VIDEO: NVIDIA Geforce 6600 GT 128MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD--
Powered by Leadtek [+200]
VIDEO2: NONE
VIDEOCAMERA: NONE
WIRELESSPOINT: GENERIC WIRELESS 802.11B ACCESS POINT [+45]
WIRELESSCARD: PCI Wireless 802.11g 11Mbps Network Interface Card [+27]
ZIP: NONE
_PRICE: (+1059)
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