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Old 06-06-2005, 12:03 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 06-06-2005, 01:01 AM   #52 (permalink)
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He raises an interesting point though, I don't see a bunch of people *****ing and whining about their previous Athlon cores not supporting SSE3 instruction sets, hell I see a couple of people here who don't have any SSE instruction set capibilities with their processors.

I agree that nVidia produced the superior generation than ATi, but quite frankly the x800 series is about a year old. PS3.0 started playing a role about a month ago and still isn't particularily game dependant so there's really no need to complain about that. Anyone who doesn't like their x850, I'll gladly take it off your hands.

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The Athlon 64 FX series didn't support 90nm processes nor SSE3 instruction sets until a couple of weeks ago. Your point?
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^^ that's because the 90nm cores at the time (the Winchesters) could not get high enough clock speeds to be used as FX's
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Yes, I realize that , but the point I was aiming for was he was implying the best. The best process availible at the time was the 90nm wafer and AMDs top end cores couldn't offer it, which meant that the reputable AMD wasn't making the best with it's high end stuff.

The irony behind this is the FX series was still an uber series of processors and considered the fastest around, despite not offering the best availible for whatever the reason.
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they still are really good processors, despite being only 130nm.
now they have a 90nm San Diego FX-55, which rox
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It all started when just one game said they would code using ps3. NVidia fans on here are just looking for things to say make nvidia better than ati. Just one game is all it took. The x850 is still the best video card because it plays the bulk of the games out there and coming out in the near future, better. Just because nvidia can play 1% of the new games coming out better than ATI does not make ATI an inferior product. That's the fact I think. So people go buying 6800 ultra's and they expect the best. Yet they aren't even getting temporal anti-alising. Everyone who bought a nvidia 6800 ultra has been cheated because they thought they were buying the best, they should have all the eye candy that's out there, blah blah blah. I'm going to talk to nvidia and demand my money back.
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It all started when just one game said they would code using ps3. NVidia fans on here are just looking for things to say make nvidia better than ati. Just one game is all it took. The x850 is still the best video card because it plays the bulk of the games out there and coming out in the near future, better. Just because nvidia can play 1% of the new games coming out better than ATI does not make ATI an inferior product. That's the fact I think.
Just wait for the X900XT...then ATI will likely have its day of superiority again. If not, it shouldn't be near as bad as what we have seen this generation.

Don't bother trying to defend the X800 series at this forum because we all know that the X800 series can do nothing the 6800 series can't except lack SM3.0, therefore suck in cutting edge games.
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It all started when just one game said they would code using ps3. NVidia fans on here are just looking for things to say make nvidia better than ati. Just one game is all it took. The x850 is still the best video card because it plays the bulk of the games out there and coming out in the near future, better. Just because nvidia can play 1% of the new games coming out better than ATI does not make ATI an inferior product. That's the fact I think.
I can say this is "just an excuse for an ATI fanboy who doesn't accept that PS 3.0 is where games are headed"

I and many here don't hate ATI, we just prefer 6800's against X800's and X850's. also a lot of those that prefer 6800's over X800's and X850's also prefer Radeon 9800's and 9600's over Geforce FX cards (yes I do aswell)

just stop with this "you're a fanboy" crap
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Also, temporal anti-aliasing doesn't mean a thing, and nobody uses it or relies on it. Shader Model 3.0 is the building blocks for future games. Those two things are uncomparable.

I hate to do it, but thanks to dale, this thread is being locked as well. It was supposed to be a civil discussion in the GeForce 7800GTX, not an X800 vs. 6800 flamefest.
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