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Old 04-06-2005, 02:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Since people in my last thread seemed not to bother at looking at the link i gave them i started this thread. Can any of you build me a gaming pc (that is also upgradable so i dont have to buy a new one every year) that can run half-life 2 and some other games really well for 1500 i would appreciate it.

Also can you build one for 1500 better than this:

Processors & Chipset
Bullet Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with Hyper-Threading Technology at 3.73GHz Extreme Edition (1066MHz FSB, 2MB cache).

Bullet Intel® 925XE Express chipset

Operating Systems
Bullet Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
Bullet Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Bullet Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition

Office Suites & Productivity
Standard:
Bullet WordPerfect®

Optional:
Bullet Microsoft Works Suite
Bullet WordPerfect Office 12
Bullet Microsoft Office 2003 Basic Edition
Bullet Microsoft Office 2003 Small Business Edition
Bullet Microsoft Office 2003 Professional Edition

Memory
Bullet 512 MB Dual channel DDR2-533MHz SDRAM standard, upgradable to 4 GB1.
Bullet 4 DIMM slots. Memory installed in pairs for dual channel.

Drive Bays
Externally accessible:
Bullet Three 5.25" for CD, CD-RW, DVD or combination drive
Bullet One floppy drive bay

Internally accessible:
Bullet Three 3.5-inch bays for hard drives

I/O Ports
Externally accessible:
Bullet Serial: One 9-pin serial port
Bullet Parallel: One parallel port
Bullet Video: One 15-hole connector
Bullet Keyboard: One 6-pin mini-DIN connector (or use USB connection)
Bullet Mouse: One 6-pin mini-DIN connector (or use USB connection)
Bullet IEEE 1394: Two IEEE 1394 ports - 1 front/1 back
Bullet USB: 8 USB 2.0 ports - 2 front/6 back
Bullet Headphone: 1 front headphone jack
Bullet Audio: 5.1 channel out (3 jacks), line in, and microphone
Bullet Network: Integrated Gigabit Ethernet

Internally accessible:
Bullet Single IDE Channel: 40-pin connector (two devices)

Slots
Bullet 4 PCI slots
Bullet 1 PCIe x 1 slot
Bullet 1 PCIe x16 (graphics) slot

Chassis
Quiet yet robust thermal design. Chassis features:
Bullet NEW! Front bezel and badge lighting with 7 color options
Bullet 8 USB 2.0 ports (2 front, 6 back) and front headphone jack
Bullet Convenient front flip covers conceal front I/O ports and drive bays
Bullet 3 - 5 1/4" external bays
Bullet 3 - HDD bays
Bullet 460W power supply
Bullet 3 chassis fans for cooling. 2 more dedicated to the power supply.
Bullet Clam-shell design provides easy access. Opens with one latch while in upright position.
Bullet Color coded ports and internal cables simplify service and set up
Bullet Dimensions (H x W x D): 19.3" x 8.7" x 19.2"

Power
Bullet Output Wattage: 460 Watts
Bullet Input Voltage (auto-sending): 90 - 135V at 50/60 Hz; or 180 - 265 V at 50/60 Hz
Bullet Heat Dissipation: 931.2 BTU/hour (fully loaded computer without monitor)
Bullet Backup Battery: 3.0 V CR2032 coin cell

Video
Bullet 256mb PCI Express Nvidia Geforce 6800

That comp i just listed is also 1500 so im seeing if i can get a better deal by making one my self rather than buying the above dell gaming comp. It looks pretty impresive, DDR2, 3.6ghz on a 925Ex chipset.

P.S Why are AMD processors always slower than Intels, they are always like 2.2 ghz and 1.9 ghz where intel are like 3.2-3.6

Thakns alot guys.
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amd athlon 64 3500+ $260
DFI lanparty ultra nf4 $150
Geil ocz 1 gig dual channel ram $200
zalman 7000cu w/120mm fan $50
200gig sata 7200rpm $160
eVGA 6800ultra $435
lian li case $150
extra fans and round cables $50
Antec neopower 450w psu
total cost $1500 plus shipping

damn i want this system

this system is not even comparable to the dell you posted and this will play any game at max res no lag and will dominate at anything
nothing can compare to it. well in its price range

lol i just posted this on another thread try searching b4 posting
amds run more cycles per second think of it as more efficiency do more with less amd kill for gamin tho
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amd athlon 64 3500+ $260
DFI lanparty ultra nf4 $150
Geil ocz 1 gig dual channel ram $200
zalman 7000cu w/120mm fan $50
200gig sata 7200rpm $160
eVGA 6800ultra $435
lian li case $150
extra fans and round cables $50
Antec neopower 450w psu
total cost $1500 plus shipping

damn i want this system

this system is not even comparable to the dell you posted and this will play any game at max res no lag and will dominate at anything
nothing can compare to it. well in its price range

lol i just posted this on another thread try searching b4 posting
amds run more cycles per second think of it as more efficiency do more with less amd kill for gamin tho
good system but the guy is new

i suggest you go to www.ibuypower.com and follow those specs or close to it
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well i think that he could build it himself there are plenty of websites with how to guides and i built my own system after knowing nothing about computers. Read no manuals and just plugged everything where it fit not too difficult really. plus ibuypower isnt all that great they still charge quite a bit. but hey if you want to build it yourself and need any help im me anytime @ thephilosofizer kk
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Local computer stores are sometimes happy to build the PC for you if you take the parts in, others will order the parts in specialy for you and build it aswell.

Try asking a few of you stores or local shops if you feel unable to build it yourself.
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damn, do you guys ever sleep

, well back to studying
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not really im pretty much up all the time its like what 1 a.m. here in cali and im still sitting here hmm im hungry ill wait till morning i dont want to get up
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lol...im in cali too (so cal, hacienda heights, if u know where dat is)

its 12-46 and im studying for my bio test on thursday
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amd athlon 64 3500+ $260
DFI lanparty ultra nf4 $150
Geil ocz 1 gig dual channel ram $200
zalman 7000cu w/120mm fan $50
200gig sata 7200rpm $160
eVGA 6800ultra $435
lian li case $150
extra fans and round cables $50
Antec neopower 450w psu
total cost $1500 plus shipping

damn i want this system

this system is not even comparable to the dell you posted and this will play any game at max res no lag and will dominate at anything
nothing can compare to it. well in its price range

lol i just posted this on another thread try searching b4 posting
amds run more cycles per second think of it as more efficiency do more with less amd kill for gamin tho
Wont the dells ram be better being DDR2???
What video card is that?
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Originally posted by aspire.comptech
amd athlon 64 3500+ $260
DFI lanparty ultra nf4 $150
Geil ocz 1 gig dual channel ram $200
zalman 7000cu w/120mm fan $50
200gig sata 7200rpm $160
eVGA 6800ultra $435
lian li case $150
extra fans and round cables $50
Antec neopower 450w psu
total cost $1500 plus shipping

damn i want this system

this system is not even comparable to the dell you posted and this will play any game at max res no lag and will dominate at anything
nothing can compare to it. well in its price range

lol i just posted this on another thread try searching b4 posting
amds run more cycles per second think of it as more efficiency do more with less amd kill for gamin tho
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I am with stupid, however I would save some dough on a 6800GT and just OC it to ultra speeds. Case is but it's still a good case.

For your AMD question. AMD do have lower clockspeeds. Lets say for every clock, AMD does 2 things and intel only does one. This would make a 1.8ghz AMD the same as a 3.6GHZ Intel in general peformance. This is just an example and is a bit off, the technical reason is Intel's WAAY deeper (and skinnier) pipelines.

AMD Also completly own Intel in gaming for the large part

DDR2 is not really better than DDR, actually it's more of a Intel VS AMD difference. DDR still has lots of life left in it and is very fast, and with my Dual Channel DDR400 (your is dual channel) I can easily wipe a few DDR2 PC's out without overclocking. However after a few weeks when you feel like pushing your PC, you will be able to run the ram at DDR600 speeds

And for the graphics card, it's a 16 pipeline eVGA card. Kicks the crap out of dell's 8 pipeline 6800's with doubble the speed. Dell sells broken graphics cards with their PC with the broken parts disabled, causing a large decrease in speed.
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