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Old 07-26-2004, 02:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was looking at benchmarks, and the Ti4200 beats the FX5200 by at least 60% in frames per second. The part that confuses me is the Ti4200 is 64 MB and the FX5200 is 128 MB, and the Ti4200 is DX 8.1 and the FX5200 is DX 9.0. Why does the FX5200 get beaten so badly? I don't know too much about the architecture of video cards.
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FPS isnt made out of the amount of ram you have, the FX series werent any good until the 5900's.
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What is/are the main determinant(s) of how good a video card is, or how smoothly it is able to play?
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FPS isnt made out of the amount of ram you have, the FX series werent any good until the 5900's.
uhh the geforce FX 5700 ULTRAS are nice and will beat the radeon 9600XT anyday in my opinion
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err.. actually, i'm glad you stated that it was in your opinion.. because although the cards are practically equal (1 card beats the other, and visa versa) the 9600xt may loose in 3dmark03 and other benchmarks, but in actual gameplay, you'll see that it is better than the 5700ultra, not by a huge amount, but by enough that you'd rather have the 9600xt over the 5700u

http://www.amdmb.com/article-display...D=274&PageID=1

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I got a 5200 and am perfectly happy about it. The problem you may have with the Ti is in newer games as you may not be able to play them with that card. The reason is in the use of pixel shaders and vertex shaders and the need for dx 9 or above. Thief will NOT work, for example, with out it. I've tried 3d analyse and without pixel shader 1.0 or above support it was hopeless Anyhow, that is one other thing to consider.
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Oh, and not saying that dx 8.1 doesn't support ps 1.0, I'm just saying to be sure the card you get does. I believe the Ti does, but the MX cards do not (I'm pretty sure on that, but if anyone knows different, please correct me and show me the link... for my own research ) thanx
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This is interesting. Check out these benchmarks:

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...charts-09.html

I have a GeForce FX 5200 right now, but I'm thinking about returning it and getting a GeForce Ti4200 64 MB. What enables the Ti4200, which is DX 8.1, to beat out the FX 5200 which is DX 9? Since Halo is DX 9, shouldn't the FX 5200 do better?
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depends on pipelines, GPU processor speed, driver format, and overall total bandwidth.
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well see this :

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