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Old 03-13-2004, 11:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Have at me I say! Kings and Knaves, stir my pride! (Is it good or bad?)

This is an offspring of a Tech TV episode of The Screen Savers I watched a while ago. It was a "Build a 500$ gaming rig" part, that was focused on creating a low price system and having great results (such as very decent FPS on UT2003, which was their base game)

I made my own modifications, and I am no computer expert, but I have been delving into them more lately. Can anyone with a nice knowledge base tell me if this is a good deal? Every part is purchaseable on New-Egg. I wanted to use Price Watch like suggested, but I found it too iritating going around to 10 different sites when I had one great one at my disposal.

These are the specs, and you won't believe the price. This is No E-Machines my dear friends. (Also, I believe everything is in coordinance with eachother. I am quite sure the RAM (266-2100) is supported on the motherboard.) Anyway -

EDIT!! - Earlier case didn't have power-supply,

SECOND EDIT! Uhhh. that case didn't have one either .....

POWMAX Case with Side Panel Window (Black), Model "CP03294HL-5" -RETAIL


- Specifications -

Case Type: Mid-Tower
Color: Black
Material: All metal construction(SGCC)
Drive Bays: 4x 5.25", 2x 3.5", 4x 3.5"(Internal)
Expansion Slots: 7xSlots
Front Ports: 2x USB2.0, Audio Ports
Power Supply: 400W ATX12V
Cooling System: 1x System Fan(Rear)
Motherboard Compatibility: ATX/MicroATX/AT
Dimensions: 8x16.5x17.5 inches (WxHxL)
Special Features: Diamond shape blue intensive "PowerOn" LED



ABIT NF7-S ,nForce2 SPP chipset Support AMD Socket A with 200/266/333 FSB ,8X AGP,SATA 150 ATX motherboard
Specifications:
Supported CPU:AMD-K7 Duron/Athlon/Athlon XP Socket A
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 SPP chipset with MCP2-T
FSB:200/266/333MHz
RAM:3x 184Pin DDR Supports 3 DIMM DDR 200/266/333 (Max. 3GB)or
2 DIMM DDR 400 (Max. 2GB)
IDE:2 x Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 (up to 4 Devices)
Slots:1 x AGP8X/4X, 5 x PCI slots
Ports:1xFDD, 2xSATA,2xUSB2,2xPS2,2xCOM,1xLPT and Audio Ports
Onboard Serial ATA: Supports transfer rates 150MB/s (1.5G bps)
Onboard Audio:6-Channel AC 97 CODEC
Onboard LAN: 10/100Mb Operation supports ACPI & Wake on LAN
Onboard Firewire: IEEE 1394a at 100/200/400MB/s transfer rate more info-> N82E16813127143R $59.00 $59.00


Transcend ATI Radeon 9600 PRO 128MB CRT+DVI+TV 8X AGP - RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset: RADEON 9600 PRO
Memory:128MB DDR
Bus:AGP 8X
Quad-Pipe architecture delivers real-time cinematic rendering and animation
SMARTSHADER™ 2.0 technology supports Microsoft® DirectX® 9 feature sets, enabling more complex and cinematic-quality lighting effects
Ports: VGA + DVI + S-video
Retail box (see pics for details) Powered By ATI Manufactured by Transcend more info-> N82E16814156010R $51.75 $51.75


AMD ATHLON XP 2600+ Barton 333MHz FSB PROCESSOR CPU- OEM
Specifications:
CPU: 1.9 GHz
Type: XP 2600 Barton Core
Cache: 512K L2
BUS: 333MHz
Socket A
OEM (Chip Only See pics) more info-> N82E16819103417R $63.75 $63.75


ALL COMPONENTS 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-2100 - OEM
Specification
Manufacturer: ALL COMPONENTS
Speed: DDR266(PC2100)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 2.1GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820159105 $72.50 $72.50


Hitachi 80GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model HDS722580VLAT20 Part# 14R9246, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 80GB
Average Seek Time: 8.8 ms
Buffer: 2MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Features: Lowest power requirements, Optional low acoustic and power modes
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
Remark: OEM Drive Only more info-> N82E16822145041 $68.00 $68.00


Lite-On Black 16X DVD-ROM Drive, Model XJ-HD166, OEM
Specifications:
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Interface: E-IDE/ATAPI
Buffer: Not specified
Access Time: 120ms ( typical )
Data Transfer Rate: DVD-ROM 8600~21600 KB/sec, CD-ROM 3000~7200 KB/sec
Features: SMART-X Technology, Easy-Tray Design for Both Horizontally & Vertically Use
Remark: OEM (see pictures for details) more info->


I have an extra 512 of 2100 lying around, that is why I opted for 2100 instead of 2700.

And the grand total is -
*Drumroll*

367$ - I repeat, Three Hundred and Sixty Seven dollars.

(This does not include shipping, though from past experience, it shouldn't be terribly much. Regardless, it is under the 500$ mark that was set forth. Knowing my luck, something is wrong with this configuration, so can someone please tell me what it is? Any tips or suggestions would help, including parts recommended for exchange in place of these....)

Thanks!

(Edit - These parts were also suggested as the best overclocking parts - so I believe I can get a good 800-1100$ rig outa this after some hardcore tweakage)
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Old 03-13-2004, 11:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Look at the computer in my signature, it was only $450
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Yep Yep, but thats 83$ I could spend on something else. Can anyone find anything wrong with my configuration, or does anyone have any tips? Some items are out of stock, so I'm not buying immediately.... Thanks


- Plus mine is a 2600
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Oh, and by the way, your ram is PC-2100 which runs at 266MHZ while your processor has a FSB of 333MHZ, you should go with PC2700 as a minimum, probably 3200 would be your best bet, because then you can OC.

I have my processor running at 2.09GHZ and it's default is like 1.67 or something. I turned the FSB up to 333MHZ instead of the default 266Mhz. If your ram speed is lower than the FSB of your processor you will be forced to run at a lower speed.
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ID swap the 9600pro for a 9600XT or 9800 pro.I looked thur newegg i didnt see a 9600pro for 52.Saw one for a 132 though. you sure that isnt just a 9600.
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Do you have AIM? I can help you configure something on that. My motherboard is one step up from the NF7-V2 or whatever the hell it is you're getting. And it's only like 5-10 dollars more. It has firewire and optical in AND out.

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Transcend ATI Radeon 9600 PRO 128MB CRT+DVI+TV 8X AGP - RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset: RADEON 9600 PRO
Memory:128MB DDR
Bus:AGP 8X
Quad-Pipe architecture delivers real-time cinematic rendering and animation
SMARTSHADER™ 2.0 technology supports Microsoft® DirectX® 9 feature sets, enabling more complex and cinematic-quality lighting effects
Ports: VGA + DVI + S-video
Retail box (see pics for details) Powered By ATI Manufactured by Transcend more info->


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Refurbished and not in stock. Most likely will not be one.
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NEW SPECS! Jumped to 540 though -

RAIDMAX Yellow Case 10-bay Case without Power Supply, Model "ATX-268WY" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Case Type: Gaming Tower
Color: Yellow
Material: 0.7mm SECC Steel
Drive Bays: 5.25'' x4, 3.5''(External) x2,3.5''(Internal) x4
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0 x2
Power Supply: N/A
Cooling System: 80mm Side Panel fan x2
Motherboard Compatibility: ATX Form Factor 12" x 10.5" or smaller
Dimensions: 16.2''Hx8''Wx17.8''D more info-> N82E16811156022 $27.00 $27.00


ASUS nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU, Model "A7N8X-E Deluxe"
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket A AMD Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP-T
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM support Dual-Channel DDR400/333/266/200(Non-ECC) Max 3GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 66/100/133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP Pro/8X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,2xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),SPDIF Out,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: NVIDIA SoundStorm APU(AC3) + Realtek ALC650 6-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN: Realtek 8201BL 10/100Mbps + Marvell 88E8001 GbE
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA, RAID 0/1
Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813131478R $75.00 $75.00


Sapphire ATI RADEON 9700 Atlantis PRO 128MB DDR,325/310, DVI/TV-out/CRT AGP BULK
Specifications:
Chipset:RADEON 9700Pro Visual processing unit (VPU)
Memory:128MB DDR, 256-bit memory
Eight parallel rendering pipelines
Four parallel geometry engines
Bus: AGP 8X support
Ports: VGA + DVI + S-Video Out
OS Support: Windows 98SE, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows XP Powered by ATI, Manufactured by Sapphire
*Video Card Only more info-> N82E16814102254R $160.00 $160.00


Codegen 400W ATX Power Supply For AMD/Intel, Model "ATX-350X1 Dual Fan" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 400W
PFC: No
Power Good Signal: Not specified
Hold-up Time: Not specified
Efficiency: Not specified
Over Voltage Protection: Not specified
Overload Protection: Not specified
Input Voltage: 115V/230V AC
Input Frequency Range: 60/50Hz
Input Current: 8A/4A
Output: +3.3V@20A,+5V@40A,-5V@0.5A,+12V@12A,-12@0.8A,+5VSB@2A
MTBF: 100,000 Hours
Approvals: UL/FCC/CSA more info-> N82E16817161001 $28.00 $28.00


AMD Athlon XP 2500+ "Barton", 333 FSB, 512K Cache Processor - Retail
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon XP 2500+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 1.83GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included) more info-> N82E16819103379 $80.00 $80.00


Corsair Value Select 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - OEM
Specification
Manufacturer: Corsair
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820145479 $79.00 $79.00


Seagate 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST380013AS, OEM
Specifications:
Capacity: 80GB
Average Seek Time: 8.5 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: Serial ATA
Features: 3D Defense System
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
Remark: OEM, Requires additional Power adapter more info->
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no way a 9600 PRO is in stock for that price, nope don't think so buddy. your codegen power supply is bad, i would switch to enlight 420 instead. your memory is now decent, that pc2100 would kill your system. i would spend a few bucks more for the 120GB seagate.
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