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Old 03-03-2005, 01:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well for that very low end $499 I would say stick with 512mb ram simply because windows XP has a rough time running smoothly with anything below 512.
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Old 03-03-2005, 05:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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get 512 ram that would help the most in the low end system

also maybe offer intel stuff althought yes amd is better many people who are noobies to comps dont realize how good amd's are and like intel. I remember one kid who i told my specs laughed because i have an amd 3500 and he had like an intel 2.8 ghz and said crap about my ghz. Boy did he get a good talk to about comps.
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Old 03-03-2005, 06:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Its illegial but MS dont do crap, but soon you wont be able to get very many updates for it
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Its illegial but MS dont do crap, but soon you wont be able to get very many updates for it
exactly, and as long as they can't stop me, i'll keep on doin' it

also, i agree with the othefr posters that u should have diff options such as gamer (more ram, better gfx card), music listener (bigger hdd, and maybe you can load some free progs on it such as winamp), etc.

oh, and that big hdd and impressing idea is good, i nvr thought of that
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You know how you have replyed with "There will be no longer updates" in some cases this is true but in others, not.

In short terms they are saying - keep automatic updates on and they will allow you to use the illigal version of OS software, well see for yourself,

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-5551129.html#

and this information taken off, all rights goto msnbc for this information - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6868504/ --->

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SEATTLE - Microsoft Corp. plans to severely curtail the ways in which people running pirated copies of its dominant Windows operating system can receive software updates, including security fixes.

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The new authentication system, announced Tuesday and due to arrive by midyear, will still allow people with pirated copies of Windows to obtain security fixes, but their options will be limited. The move allows Microsoft to use one of its sharpest weapons -- access to security patches that can prevent viruses, worms and other crippling attacks -- to thwart a costly and meddlesome piracy problem.

But some security experts said the crackdown also could increase Internet security problems in general, if there is a spike in unsecured computers open to attack, which then could be used to attack others.

David Lazar, a director of the effort, said Microsoft would monitor that potential problem closely. But the company actually considers its authentication requirement one possible way to boost Internet security -- countering the idea it may increase threats. That's because pirated copies of Windows could contain viruses or other security threats, he said.

Over the next few months, the software behemoth will begin to more broadly adopt the program, called Windows Genuine Advantage, that urges users to provide proof their Windows copy is authentic before receiving some software updates.

(MSNBC is a Microsoft - NBC joint venture.)

By mid-2005, the program will become mandatory for Windows users to get virtually all updates, including security fixes available through the company's Windows Update Web site. But users who have pirated copies of Windows will be able to continue to get security fixes if they sign up to automatically receive security updates.

Russ Cooper, a senior scientist with Cybertrust Inc., said completely cutting off access to security fixes for pirated machines could cause a spike in malicious, Internet-based attacks. He lauded Microsoft for mitigating that problem by continuing to allow all users to get the automatic updates, regardless of whether they're running pirated versions.

Still, Cooper said he expected Microsoft to eventually cut off that security update avenue for pirated copies. He said the company may feel it has few other options as it tries to stop the millions of users who are running pirated copes of Windows.

The operating system is one of the company's major cash cows, and the move comes as Microsoft is moving aggressively into emerging markets where piracy is thought to be more common.

"The reality is that shareholders of Microsoft would like to see them get all the money they are owed," Cooper said.

Microsoft said the company has no current plans to require users running automatic updates to provide proof that their copies of Windows are genuine.

Lazar said piracy has cost the Redmond-based company "billions of dollars over the past 10 years," but he would not be more specific.

"Our desire is to enhance the value of genuine Windows, to create a differentiation (and) to add more value in the form of greater security and reliability," Lazar said.

Customers who visit the manual Windows Update site will be asked to prove that their copies of Windows are legitimate by allowing Microsoft's system to automatically run a check, or by providing a product identification number. Users who have lost that number will be asked three basic questions, and if they are deemed to be acting in good faith they will be given a free replacement key.

The company also said it will begin providing discounted versions of Windows to users in China, Norway and the Czech Republic who discover they have a counterfeit version of Windows XP.

Rob Enderle, principal analyst with the Enderle Group, is expecting the more stringent authentication system to be successful, as Internet attacks become ever more sophisticated and users with pirated copies of Windows become helpless to stop them.

"It will create an environment where the pirated machines, if they're connected to the Internet, won't really work," he said.

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using the same CD-key for multiple installs of the OS is NOT illegal. My dad pays for Corporate Edition CD-Keys ones that DO NOT expire and we've used them maybe 20 times already.

Also, if you do need to activate Windows with a "used up" cd-key, just call there supprot line. I did this after installing new network cards and changin MAC address (triggers activation) and it was simple. they ask for old #, then they give you a new # after they authenticate the first one. if your original # is pirated, then this won't work of course...but if you have 1 valid key then they should give you a new one. worked for me
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what kind of overclocking do you plan to do with that kind of ram and what brand is the power supply? have you built this before?

anyway, would seem like overkill. offer cheaper stuff and let them upgrade. offer an upgrade to better ram and a nice PSU if you're going to mention OC'ing

meet the whole spectrum.. average computer user (and us college kids, on average, do use it a lot, so it can't be awful as you know) to crazy assed computer d0rk.
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to crazy assed computer d0rk.
...i prefer l33t m4st0r
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I would stay legal on the XP installations. after all, the customers probabbly don't want anything to be illegal

I would give them some customisability with their parts also. give them a choice of their hardware. have those systems as recommendations (I would change the 9800 to a 6600 though)
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I doubt customers will ever know or really have an issue with the fact that their OS is the same install key as everyone elses. I've used my key on about 5 PC's for friends as well as myself and always works well.
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