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Old 10-26-2003, 10:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Building Home Computer (Need Help!)

Good evening everyone,

I am building a home computer and i have knowledge of only a fraction of the components.

I have this much so far:

CPU: P4 2.8Ghz 800 fsb

Motherboard: (don't understand all of the motherboard jargon) what is a reliable one that is expandable? is dual channel DDR cool or necassary?

Power Supply: 500w

Videocard: (thinking about radion 9700 pro) is this a good one?

Soundcard: (don't have a clue about sound cards)

Hard Drive: (thinking about 60 GB 7200 rpm) what is a reliable brand?

Memory: (thinking about 512mb) what is the difference between PC 100 memory and PC 2100 memory? is it faster, more reliable?

DVD-ROM: (i want a burner)

CD-RW: (i want a burner)

Floppy: (just want basic and cheap)

Cooling: (don't know whats good) should i get led to make it look sweet?

OS: Windows XP Professional

Case: led case with open panel side

Is there anything missing?
Thank you for your help! It is much appreciated!

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Old 10-27-2003, 05:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would like to add you may need:

Lan card
Speaker System
Keyboard and Mouse

Depending on what you need and what you already have.

Just summat to think about

My Specs
Black + Silver ATX case w/Perspex Window & 7 case fans
ATX 400W Power Supply
Asus A7V8X-X Motherboard w/LAN etc (Bios 13)
AMD Athlon XP2800+ Thoroughbred CPU @ 2250Ghz (stock)
ThermalTake Volcano 11+ Heatsink/Fan (w/ Antec high-silver thermal compound)
1 x 512Mb Kingston DDR PC2700 CL2.5 (timed: 2.5,2,2,6)
ATi Built RADEON 9800 PRO 128Mb DDR (catalyst 5.3)
Maxtor 120Gb 7200rpm 2Mb Hard Disk Drive
Soundblaster Live! PCI SoundCard
Cambridge Soundworks 4.1 speakers
Packard Bell 20\" CRT Monitor
Belinea 17\" CRT Monitor
Conexant HCF 56k Modem
Windows XP Professional (SP1)
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Any good motherboard will have the modem, NIC (lan card) and decent on-board sound.

I'm out of touch on Intel mobo's, so I'll leave that one alone.

Power Supply, 500W? A bit overkill, don't you think? 360w or 400w would be more then enough.

Vid Card - Since your going for broke and spending a lot of cash already, why not go for the Raidon 9800? That would hold you over for a while.

Sound Card - Any good mobo will have good sound on it. You can go with a Creative Labs Audigy 2, but I think they're a waste of money, and that's coming from a musician.

Memory - The max that your board can handle. Probably PC2700. I don't know if intel supports PC3200 yet.
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Old 10-27-2003, 11:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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thanks for the help!

would you suggest going with an athlon processor?

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Old 10-27-2003, 12:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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if you plan to play a lot of games, then go with the Athlon
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Old 10-27-2003, 12:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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what would be the amd equivalent to a p4 2.8ghz 800fsb processor?

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Old 10-27-2003, 12:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Does a 800 FSB exist on AMD CPUs? I thought they max out at 400MHz.

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ASUS A7N8X-X*AMD Athlon XP-2400+*512MB DDR PC3200 Memory*ATI Radeon 9200SE 128MB DDR*52X24X52 LG CD-RW*16X LG DVD-ROM*80GB WD 7200 / 8MB Cache*Onboard Realtek Sound*AOpen QF50C -Blue Beige*Yamaha YST-MS201 Speakers
*Samsung Syncmaster750s*Windows 2000 Professional (SP4)
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Old 10-27-2003, 06:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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thanks for the help!

i'm going with the amd athlon xp 2700+ with asus A7V8X-X motherboard.

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Old 10-27-2003, 08:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Best choice for an AMD Athlon XP 2700+ thats what I'm have your choice between thorobred and Barton though, and I'd recommend, and am getting, a thorobred.

The mobo I'm in love with is the Asus A7N8X Deluxe, but you're present decision is just as good.

If you're gaming you'll need MUCH better memory! DDR400 PC3200 512MB and you'll need 2 sticks of it. Make sure what kind of DDR and PC your mobo supports first though...get Kingston HyperX 512MB DDR400 PC3200 you can get two sticks for a REALLY good price

Hard drive...Seagate Barracuda, Western Digital, Matrox, or Maxtor, they all make great hard drives, a bit pricey with WD though...Maxtor seems to be on most people's, and my, A-list...for gaming, get a Maxtor Ultra Series 80.0GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache

With the DVD-Rom, make sure its a CD/DVD-Rom so you can run both CD and DVDs...for the CD read speed, you'll need 48x or higher...For DVD read, I'm getin''ll find pretty good drives under $100...

CD-RW...I heard a while back that Plextor makes the best. I might get their PlexWriter. For burning I'd recommend a 48x/24x/48a somewhere along there and its less than $150

Floppy? or newegg to find regular, basic stuff. Teac brand is as simple and cheap as it gets, but I can't find one in a black/gray/silver color. Same for Mitsumi brand...

To save money, just get a case with two fans in back, one on side, and a fan or airflow in the front of the case. anymore fans is a plus, but to your specs, not needed.

Creative Labs makes the industries top soundcards...The SoundBlaster Audigy series is quite popular, with your choice between Gamer edition, MP3+ edition, etc...Or you can get an Audigy goes up to Platinum Pro...if you're like me, and you're gonna begin studio work, I'd get the Audigy 2 ZS Platinum. they also make some of the top speaker systems...

As for speaker systems, my best experiences come with Klipsch ProMedia speakers, but you have your other top brands like logitech and altec lansing and creative labs/cambridge soundworks, etc... as I'd recommend...

Logitech or Microsoft make good mice...get a Logitech MX500 Optical...please, in my opinion, and do take my advice, stay away from wireless/cordless pricey keyboard+mouse sets! Optical or the old ball technology is best for gaming, and my experiences with many diff wireless have shown me that cordless sucks!

I can't seem to find a simple, good keyboard under $50, and thats all I wanted, so can provide you. Just browse their selection.

You'll want your power supply to stay between 420w and can get a case with a power supply with it.

If you're gonna buy fans sepearatly, I've heard enermax is a top brand. and and if you want, you can find Arctic Silver 3 on pricebrabber or summit...

Save your money on the videocard. Get an ATi Radeon 9600Pro or an Nvidia 5600. Both 128MB AGP from what I've heard ATi seems to be the better with games right now, and especially if you wanna play Half-Life 2

If you get a dial-up modem, U.S. Robotics, 3Com, or Creative Labs makes pretty good stuff. Get a v.92 and if you're getting DSL or Cable, you're installer should give you a modem.

This is what I'm probably getting:

Monitor: NEC AccuSync LCD7V or NEC MultiSync LCD1760NX
Case+Power Supply&Fans:
Mouse: Logitech MX500 Optical
Keyboard: KeyTronic E03600QLPS2B-C @
Motherboard: Asus A7N8X Deluxe
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2700+ Thourobred @
Videocard: ATi Radeon 9600Pro 128MB AGP
Soundcard: Creative Labs SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Platinum ZS
Memory: 2 sticks of Kingston HyperX 512MB DDR400
PC3200 @
Hard Drive: Maxtor Ultra Series 80.0GB 7200RPM 8MBCache EIDE ATAPI/133
CD-RW: Plextor PlexWriter 48x/24x/48a EIDE ATAPI @
Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 @
OS: Windows 2000 Professional @

edit: oh yeah! make sure your floppy, cd/dvd-rom, cd-rw(if you want), hard drive, are EIDE ATAPI.
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe
Maxtor 80GB/7200RPM/8MBCache/ATA-150 SATA
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ Barton
Kingston HyperX 512MB PC3200/DDR400
ATi Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
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I wouldn't exactly recommend the T-bred core over the Barton, if i saw the correct cache sizes.
The site i bought my XP 2600+ Barton said it had a 640k cache, while all the T-breds had a paltry 256k.

Maybe....MAYBE the 2700+ since it's got a higher clock rate, but all the faster ones after that are Bartons anyway.
I would personally suggest the 2500-2600+ as they got good reviews almost across the board.

NZXT Guardian Case with Thermaltake PurePower 420w
FIC AU13 motherboard
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ 333FSB (Barton) with Thermaltake Silent Boost HSF
WDC 80Gb 8Mb cache 7200rpm
512Mb Kingston Dual-channel PC3200
MCP-T SoundStorm audio (integrated)
ATi Radeon 9800 Pro (it owned, until x800 and 6800)
Logitech Z-680 5.1 speaker system (integrated Dolby Digital 5.1, DTS, Pro Logic II decoding)
Logitech Cordless Elite Duo keyboard & mouse
Saitek Cyborg Evo joystick
Windows XP Pro SP1 (dont. install. SP2.)
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