If your planning on OC'ing, don't go for ASUS. I don't know about the 9800 but the 9600 may not be overclocked. Any of these cards cooling suck (ATI, Sapphire etc...) unless you go in their special edition which are a lot more. Just make sure your whole computer is well ventilated and you should have no problems. I have none with my ATI at 411/347.