Please read the post again because I do think that we agree.
Originally posted by Calzinger
The thing is that you may not really get any OC at all on the stock cooling. To be honest, it really sucks. I would highly suggest Thermalright's XP-90. It is comparable to water cooling OC capabilities.
I state that you will not get any overclocking whatsoever on the stock heatsink, which I think we all agree is very true. I suggest a very high quality heatsink IF he is planning to overclock, the Thermalright XP-90 ($30 @ frozencpu). Check any review website and they will tell you that it is a very good heatsink. I'd get it even if I wasn't planning to OC just to reduce the temperatures.
I do notice though that at least on my 3200+ Winchester, I get incredibly high temperatures on the stock cooler. It isn't even overclocked. I was looking to get that XP-90, but instead looked into getting water cooling system.
Even if you aren't overclocking and you're getting high temperatures, it should obviously always be in a safe zone. It wouldn't make much sense for AMD to sell a standard heatsink that comes with your CPU that can't even do its job under standard conditions.