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Old 07-02-2004, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I trying to save a little money on the motherboards. Which one of these is better? Should i just spend $20 more or is it pretty much the same? the Abit got excellent reviews...also, will this work with
AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor??? thank you


ASUS "A7N8X-E Deluxe" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL $99
- Specifications -
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP-T
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for Dual-Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP Pro/8X, 5x PCI, 1x Wi-Fi
Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,2xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),SPDIF Out,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN: Realtek 8201BL 10/100Mbps + Marvell 88E8001 GbE
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA by Silicon Image Sil3112A, RAID 0/1
Form Factor: ATX
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ABIT "NF7-S" nForce2 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL $82
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Duron/Athlon/Athlon XP Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 SPP + MCP-T
FSB: 400/333/266MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR333/266 Max 3GB, 2x DIMM for DDR400 Max 2GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS/2,2xCOM,1xLPT,SPDIF Out,6xUSB2.0(Rear 2),1xLAN,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: nVIDIA SoundStorm APU(Dolby 5.1) + 6-Channel AC97 CODEC
Onboard LAN: 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA, RAID 0/1
Onboard 1394: 2 Ports
Form Factor: ATX
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Old 07-02-2004, 10:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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NF7-S is by far the best AMD Athlon motherboard out there, it has all the features of the Asus, plus it overclocks a whole lot better and is a lot more stable. Also the onboard audio is better.
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Old 07-02-2004, 10:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hmm i think i need a new motherboard if i'm gonna get 64 2800+....but there are some expensive ones and some cheap ones....would the cheap ones work as well? I'm not going to overclock, just need it to be fast and reliable....

here are some cheap ones....

CHAINTECH "SK8T800" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard
CHAINTECH "VNF3-250" nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard
BIOSTAR "K8NHA PRO" nForce3 150 Chipset Motherboard
GIGABYTE "GA-K8S760M" SiS760 Chipset Motherboard

and some more expensive ones.....

MSI "K8T Neo-FIS2R" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard
GIGABYTE "GA-K8N PRO" nForce3 150 Chipset Motherboard
ASUS "K8V SE Deluxe" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard
MSI nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Athlon 64 Socket 754 CPU, Model "K8N Neo Platinum" (MS-7030) -RETAIL


i know the cheaper ones will have less features, but i'm asking will they be the same reliability?? thx
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Old 07-02-2004, 11:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I just bought the Abit KV8-Max3 (Socket 754) today...

Was I ever impressed!... This motherboard was much better than I ever expected it to be (first time with Abit). I would definatly have to recommend this mobo. You get so much for a good price ($229 CDN).



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P.S.: The motherboard is one of the most important parts in a computer, and is often overlooked. Take my advice, do not go cheap... If you want something with reliability, speed and power, it's gonna cost a bit more!... Good luck!
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Originally posted by agex000
I just bought the Abit KV8-Max3 (Socket 754) today...

Was I ever impressed!... This motherboard was much better than I ever expected it to be (first time with Abit). I would definatly have to recommend this mobo. You get so much for a good price ($229 CDN).



Abit KV8-MAX3

P.S.: The motherboard is one of the most important parts in a computer, and is often overlooked. Take my advice, do not go cheap... If you want something with reliability, speed and power, it's gonna cost a bit more!... Good luck!
One of the most important? In my opinion it is the most important. The motherboard is the base of the computer. If the component that everything plugs into is garbage, then the system will act as such, regardless of any other component....
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The reason is said ONE of the most important is because the PSU also plays a very important roll. If you have a powerful mobo connected to some no name piece of sh*t PSU (regardless of wattage), u are going to run into problems somewhere along the line!...! Most ppl under estimate the importance of a good PSU!
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The reason is said ONE of the most important is because the PSU also plays a very important roll. If you have a powerful mobo connected to some no name piece of sh*t PSU (regardless of wattage), u are going to run into problems somewhere along the line!...! Most ppl under estimate the importance of a good PSU!
Anyone willing to buy a good motherboard and neglect the power source should know what they are getting themselves into..
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so i was looking at ASUS "K8V SE Deluxe" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard, MSI nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard Model "K8N Neo Platinum" (MS-7030), and MSI "K8T Neo-FIS2R" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard. the K8N is the most expensive but with rebate, all these are about the same price. I heard some bad things about MSI motherboards in general, and epecificaly about K8N. People say the K8N is good but has some small problems that you have to fix and upgrade bios and stuff. Since i really dunno much about computers, I think the Asus will be the best choice. Can I have opinions from the experts please? Thank you
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Asus used to make great motherboards up until a year ago... They are really letting there quality slip, and I have no idea why. You were right about the MSI. A lot of people are having trouble with them, and also many of them seem to burn out quite early! I, for one, avoid MSI. There is nothing wrong with the Asus, I was just pointing out that they are getting slightly cheap. IMO take the Abit, or potentially a good Gigabyte (good as in one that is not based on the original AMD64 architecture... unless u are not using RAM with ultra low latency)... Once again... Good luck!..!
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hmm in abit motherboards theres like 2 options....ABIT "KV8-MAX3" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard and ABIT "KV8 Pro" K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard....MAX3 is $140 which is a little too expensive but the Pro is $105, which is cheaper....I think they're pretty similar, cant tell what the difference is....
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ABIT "KV8-MAX3" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL
- Specifications -
Supported CPU: Socket 754 AMD Athlon64 Processors
Chipset: VIA K8T800 + VT8237
FSB: 800MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR333/266, 2x DIMM for DDR400 Max 2GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI Slots
Ports: 2xPS/2, SPDIF In/Out, 1xLAN,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4), 3xIEEE1394a(Rear 1), Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: 6-Channel AC97 CODEC
Onboard LAN: 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 6x Serial ATA, 4 SATA RAID 0/1/0+1
Form Factor: ATX

ABIT "KV8 Pro" K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard for AMD Athlon64 CPU -RETAIL
**NON-REFUNDABLE ITEM.Warranty is provided through product Manufacturer Only!
- Specifications -
Supported CPU: Socket 754 AMD Athlon64 Processors
Chipset: VIA K8T800 Pro + VT8237
RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 2GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X , 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS/2,1xCOM,1xLPT,SPDIF In/Out,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: 6-Channel AC97 Codec
Onboard LAN: VT6122 Gigabit Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA, RAID 0/1 JBOD
Form Factor: ATX
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and all the Gigabytes are either really expensive or cheap....i dun think you mean this one as in a good one.

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GIGABYTE "GA-K8NS PRO" nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL
**NON-REFUNDABLE ITEM. Exchange for same Exact Item Only! (limit 1 per customer)
- Specifications -
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon64 Processors(1600MHz System Bus)
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce3 250
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 by chipset, 2x ATA 133 w/ RAID0/1/0+1 JBOD by GigaRAID IT8212 up to 8 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS/2,1xLPT,2xCOM,1xLAN,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850 8-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN: Marvell 8001 Gigabit Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x SATA by chipset, RAID 0/1 JBOD; 2x SATA by Sil3512, RAID 0/1
Onboard 1394: T.I. controller, 3 Ports
Form Factor: ATX
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So do you think getting the KV8 Pro or the Gigabyte would be better than the Asus? I have an Asus right now in my computer and its running fine after 6 months...
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