Thanks for the insight. I kinda thought it might be one of those deals, but I wasn't sure. I'm starting to think the guy that upgraded my motherboard about a year ago was just trying to get rid of a not so popular board. The thing doesn't even have slots to plug in my video or sound cards. Of course he neglected to tell me about this until the work was done. He just handed me my cards back and said the on board stuff was good enough. If I knew then what I know now I would have showed him a slot where he could stick his entire board in!