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Old 06-10-2005, 11:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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First of all, I just found these boards today. Well, I was already registered, so apparently I found them a while back and just forgot about them. Lot's of useful information here and thanks to everyone who shares their knowledge and tries to help people out.

I apolgoize for bringing up a subject thats probably been driven into the ground...

I plan on building a new desktop for gaming in a couple of weeks. I've built a ton of computers before, so no problem there. My problem is.. I'm kind of out of the loop on hardware! I've just used laptops the past couple of years and haven't been into gaming or anything in quite a while.

Most of my past computers were always AMDs, and I really liked them. What should I look for in today's AMD processors? I'm not really up to part with how a AMD Athlon 64 3400+ @ 2.4ghz stacks up to a Pentium rated at 3.0 or 3.4ghz. Forgive my ignorance... but can an AMD 2.4 hang with a Pentium 3.0 or 3.4 without being overclocked? I know we aren't talking about the kind of difference you would get between a 500mhz and a 1.5ghz... but still... what can I expect?

Thanks ahead of time for any help!
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You cant really compare the frequencies between AMDs and Intels. What you can compare is benchmarks. If you had an idea on how much you wanted to spend and how well you wanted a computer to perform, then benchmarks will give you a good idea on what to get.

Have a look here to compare CPUs.

The reason that a slower clocked AMD can keep with a higher clocked Intel is because and AMD does more instructions per clock cycle.

It's like two runners: They both move their feet in the same rhythm, and they keep in step with each other. One runner is taller than the other. The taller runner's strides are longer, and therefore he gets further with each step than the shorter one.
The shorter runner would have to move his feet faster than the tall one to keep up.
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I want to spend 2000 or less (on the computer.. not monitor and other stuff included). I'm figuring about 1500 will get me a good system.

Currently looking for something around a Pentium 3ghz processor, 256mb video card (do not need dual dvi.. just vga for now.. sticking with a CRT. just cant make myself believe the LCDs are as crisp and clear), 2g RAM, one 10k RPM 34g drive, one 7200 RPM drive around 100 g....
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intel Pentium 4 640 Prescott 800MHz FSB 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 EM64T Processor - Retail $276

ASUS P5WD2 Premium Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 955X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $225.00

CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit System $253.00
This RAM was the only stuff that ran at DDR800 speeds on newegg. I realize that you could probably overclock some other RAM to get to this speed, but this stuff will give less hassle to get to that speed.

eVGA 256-P2-N376-AX Geforce 6800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card - Retail $359.00

Western Digital Raptor WD360GD 36.7GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $123.00

Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3200826AS 200GB 7200 RPM 8M Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $115

Turns out to be around $1300
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Excuse me? But did you just suggest an intel CPU for a gaming rig??? I am so sorry for the inconvenience Nyper, but you will be wanting this CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103539
And this mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152
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Excuse me? But did you just suggest an intel CPU for a gaming rig??? I am so sorry for the inconvenience Nyper, but you will be wanting this CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103539
And this mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152
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He asked for an Intel, so I gave him an Intel build. Dont be condescending, either 003.
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DAMN! Elbatrop1, I just noticed, my god! You are even suggesting an AGP video card??? Have you flipped out? You will need this video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130215
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Well if he asked for intel, for a gaming rig, he odviously dosn't know what he is doing. If you are heavy on office apps and all that, then intel is fine, but if you are into gaming, you need AMD hands down.
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DAMN! Elbatrop1, I just noticed, my god! You are even suggesting an AGP video card??? Have you flipped out? You will need this video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130215
Ooops I didnt even notice that

Good call on that 003
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you need AMD hands down.
Dont turn this into another AMD vs Intel thread. You dont need AMD for gaming. Yes, for the money, AMD is better at gaming.

You have to realize, though, that not everyone wants an AMD.

Some people have used Intel forever, and have come to trust the name, Intel. So, when somebody asks for an Intel computer that is good for gaming, I give one.

It IS possible to have an Intel that is good for gaming.
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