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Old 07-27-2005, 06:57 AM   #751 (permalink)
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if u have an old processor with a heat sink that will help as well. i read that the XTs and the ATs didnt even have HS/fans and the first heat sinks were just pieces of copper/alluminium and the 12V fan was concidered a flashy new idea.
if u stick cooling on an old processor you are bound to be running well below operating temp
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having XP running well is more about the RAM. a K6 will run XP fine, if you have enough RAM. 128MB is okay, 256 is better

2000 is less RAM hungry, and will run well on lower specs. 64MB RAM will do much more on 2000 than on XP
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:31 PM   #753 (permalink)
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I ran XP on a K6-2 550/192mb
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oh, our old K6 machine has 512 MB of ram on it. It runs xp, but it's just slow opening up programs and all that jazz. Like I said, once firefox is loaded, it surfs the internet just fine.

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yeah, thats because of a slow HDD.
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I started reading through this thread then suddenly realised it was over 50 pages long.....to cut a long story short, I'm looking at getting a new PC. I've seen 2 PC's that I like. One has an Intel Pentium 4 Processor 650 (clock speed 3.4GHz) and the other has an Athlon™ 64 4000+ Processor. Bearing in mind that I tend to use my PC for both gaming and genuine work (50/50), which processor would be best for me?
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Read the previous 50 pages....u have to decide yourself.
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Needless to say the Athlon64 4000+ is easily stronger than the 3.4GHz cpu. In efficiency, the Athlon64 4000+ runs at the same rate as a P4 4GHz cpu. It easily beats that P4 in gaming, but work-wise, if anything it'll only be 1-3 seconds slower than that P4.. most likely it'll go faster there too since it's more buffed. Plus, do you happen to know if it's EE? if not then I don' think that P4's 64bit, thus if you ever upgraded to windows vista, you'd only be able to do 32bit, which is slower than 64bit.

Also dude, do ya know the rest of the specs of the computer, or is it custom? Cause if you wanna game onnit, you'll need a good vidcard for sure.
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Here are the specs of the 2 PC's I'm looking at. Both are within my budget but the first is my preference.

AMD Athlon™ 64 4000+ Processor
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
ASUS A8N-E PCI Express 939 Mainboard
1024MB DDR 400 RAM (PC3200) Memory
250GB Serial ATA (150Mb/s) Ultra Fast HDD
256MB ATI Radeon X800XL - PCI-Express
19" TFT Flat Panel LCD Monitor
16x Dual Layer DVD-RW (R/W all standard formats)
Creative Labs Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Audio
Creative Labs Inspire P5800 - 5.1 Surround Speakers
Internet Ready V.92 56Kbps data/fax/voice modem
Network Ready integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet
Logitech Cordless Keyboard and Optical Mouse


Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 640 3.2GHz with Hyperthreading technology
Level 2 cache 2MB
Intel® 915P express chipset
1024MB DDR 400 RAM (PC3200) Memory
200 SATA GB
256Mb NVIDIAGeForce 6200
19" TFT Flat Panel LCD Monitor
16x Dual Layer DVD-RW (R/W all standard formats)
Intel 7.1 HD Sound Card
Internet Ready V.92 56Kbps data/fax/voice modem
Network Ready integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet
Logitech Wired Keyboard and Optical Mouse


There is also another PC that is slightly outside of my budget, but I'm not sure whether it's worth me paying out the extra £300.

AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core Processor
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional 64-bit Edition
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe PCI Express 939 Mainboard
1024MB DDR 400 RAM (PC3200) Memory
300GB Serial ATA (150Mb/s) Ultra Fast HDD
256MB nVIDIA GeForce 6800 - PCI Express
19" TFT Flat Panel LCD Monitor
SONY 16x Dual Layer DVD-RW (R/W all standard formats)*
Creative Labs Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Audio
Creative Labs Inspire T7900 - 7.1 Surround Speakers
Internet Ready V.92 56Kbps data/fax/voice modem
Network Ready integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet
Logitech Cordless Keyboard and Optical Mouse
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