Yeh i understand what your saying (this is suprising) so i thought the AMD athlon 64, because its a different and faster chip etc. it would only need a speed of 1.8ghz to be beating a 3ghz AMD athlon XP (although its a faster ghz speed the chip is naturally slower). so a low speed chip with high speed ghz could beat a very high speed ghz, but low speed chip! - i hope you understand what im saying so im just trying to compare the ghz speeds in relation to the type of chip* thanks for the help!!