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Old 11-13-2003, 07:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
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UPDATE!!!


I bought the AsusTek A7V8X-X Motherboard, DDR400, 8X, FSB333 - Brand New for £40
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Old 11-13-2003, 11:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Great, ive heard nothing but good things about that board, enjoy. BTW does it have sata ports on it. i dont remember.
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Old 11-13-2003, 04:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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No this one doesn;t because its the "-x" model which is a more budget version, it does have all the right features tho, AGP8X etc.

I meant to ask, how would getting a 7200rpm 8mb improve my gaming experience over (what i assume, due to its age) a 2mb one?

Got my CPU today, it looks OK, gonna test it 2morrow in someones mobo

How do i attatch the heatsink? Does it clip onto the CPU or the MOBO?

new to this, i'm looking for some tutorials

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Old 11-13-2003, 04:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Aw crap, i've been sent a Thorobred 2800 as opposed to a Barton, i can tell by the size of the Die.

Is there much difference?

p.s. i found out how to attatch the heatsink etc.

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Old 11-13-2003, 05:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Again, are you sure. I think all the xp 2800s are bartons.
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Old 11-13-2003, 05:15 PM   #16 (permalink)
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http://www.digital-daily.com/motherb...on/index02.htm

Check here, down the page you can see the TBred core has a smaller core, my CPU has a smaller core, you can also see the Code explanation (its in russian) but as i can see it says "3=256kb L2", looking on the code of my CPU it has a 3 there. Bartons have 512kb, which is denominated by a 4

http://us.st7.yimg.com/store1.yimg.c..._1766_90242718

This is a barton 2800, you can tell cos the Core is larger and that it clearly says on the code kv4d , 4 meaning 512kb L2 cahce which Bartons have.

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Old 11-13-2003, 05:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The confusing thing is that where it says

Thoroughbred-B processors showed operating voltage to be 1.6V (letter U), while Barton processors showed 1.65V (letter K)

Mine has the letter K!

What the hell?!
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OK the person i am buying it off says he'll drop the price to £55, which sounds very reasonable to me, should i take it, does the TBred still perform well?
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Old 11-14-2003, 02:32 AM   #19 (permalink)
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don't know that much about AMD's, but if you ordered a Barton and got a Thorobred 2800 you should take it back (if you can)
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Old 11-14-2003, 07:14 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I'm buying it off a friend, he thought it was a barton, well for £55 i can resist really so i'll take it.

Another point, i'm looking through the online manual for the asus board i have bought and it says

"This motherboard has a AGP slot that supports +1.5V cards only. Please make sure when buying a graphics card you ask for a 1.5V version."

But isn't +1.5V AGP 4X???? and +0.8V is AGP8X?? The board says it supports AGP8X. Radeon says you need a motherboard compatible with 8X (0.8V) or 4X (1.5V)

My 9800Pro aint going to run at 4X is it??! I want it to run at 8X!!!
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