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Old 08-31-2004, 09:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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really? which ones?
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Old 08-31-2004, 09:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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rad 9800 pro 128 md is 155-160 $
rad 9800 pro 256 is 210-220 $
Both outperform the 5900 xt i think
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Old 08-31-2004, 09:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I've never used an ATI Card....my Geforce FX 5700 256mb card not ultra though, but not the LE, just the middle standard....worked pretty damn good, but of course I can't compare it to ATI cause neither I nor anyone I know owns it.....but my card died after 2 months =/ Just sent it back today....died back in july lol still under manufacturer warrenty...it was by chaintech...but at the time my case had an open side..no fans...and processor IDLE as at 64C so it probably overheated =/ My friend has a eVGA GeForceFX 5700 Ultra 128mb and its given him no problems and kickz azzorz

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Old 08-31-2004, 10:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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yeah I counterstrike is pretty old, like I said it does the same thing on punkbuster but punkbuster will kick you for it in sof2
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Old 08-31-2004, 10:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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rad 9800 pro 128 md is 155-160 $
rad 9800 pro 256 is 210-220 $
Both outperform the 5900 xt i think
The 128-bit 9800 Pro is not something you'll want if you want to have better performance than a nVidia card at similar prices.

And the 5900xt is similar or a bit better than the 9600xt, which still doesn't stand a chance against a 256-bit 9800 Pro.

So go with the 9800 Pro with 128mb/256mb of 256-bit ram. They are around $180+ online.
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Old 08-31-2004, 10:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Check it out:

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/362...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Fry's has the 9800 Pro for $179.99. That's a good deal.
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WQ87 - The ATi Radeon 9800 PRO (128 Mb) outperforms the ATi Radeon 9800 PRO (256 Mb). That is a fact.
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oh, yea forgot bout that. But they are both better than the 5900 no?
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WQ87 - The ATi Radeon 9800 PRO (128 Mb) outperforms the ATi Radeon 9800 PRO (256 Mb). That is a fact.
I thought he meant 128-bit? Because those cards sucks ****.
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WQ87 - The ATi Radeon 9800 PRO (128 Mb) outperforms the ATi Radeon 9800 PRO (256 Mb). That is a fact.
You're right. See here: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...229/index.html

And the 128 MB 9800 Pro outperforms the FX 5950, even the 5950 Ultra.
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