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Old 12-13-2004, 02:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking at getting a graphics card for about $200 soon, and this week at CompUSA they have the PNY 6800 for $200 after a $30 mail-in rebate. Is the 6800 going to be alot better than the 6600GT? or about the same?
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, the 6800 would be a much better choice. Have a look at this link:

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...119/index.html

The 6800 does considerably better than the 6600GT, especially when AA and AF are turned on. In fact, I'm considering going to CompUSA and getting on that deal right now
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Yeah, go with the 6800, it has 12 pipelines versus 8 with the 660
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Except for the fact that a 6800 is basically a 6800GT with 1 or more pixel pipes that failed, so they sold it as a 6800.

6800 has 12 pixel pipes active, but 16 theoretically available. The 6800GT has 16 pixel pipes active, that is, ALL 16. You can try to "soft-mod" a 6800 to a 6800GT by enabling all pixel pipes, but more than likely, this leads to artifacts, because one or more pixel pipes were tested as not working properly.

I'd say get either the 6600GT, or spend $200 more and get the 6800GT. Don't compromise by getting the 6800.
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Except for the fact that a 6800 is basically a 6800GT with 1 or more pixel pipes that failed, so they sold it as a 6800.

6800 has 12 pixel pipes active, but 16 theoretically available. The 6800GT has 16 pixel pipes active, that is, ALL 16. You can try to "soft-mod" a 6800 to a 6800GT by enabling all pixel pipes, but more than likely, this leads to artifacts, because one or more pixel pipes were tested as not working properly.

I'd say get either the 6600GT, or spend $200 more and get the 6800GT. Don't compromise by getting the 6800.
Out of curiousity, why would you recommend getting the 6600GT over the 6800? With that deal, the 6800 is 30 dollars cheaper, and performs better in benchmarks. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Out of curiousity, why would you recommend getting the 6600GT over the 6800? With that deal, the 6800 is 30 dollars cheaper, and performs better in benchmarks. Maybe I'm missing something.
The 6800 is practically a refurbished card as soon as they put it in the box. As in, it's not up to the standard it was intended to be used for, and that is the 6800GT standard. The 6600GT is a more complete design.

To me, it's like the difference between getting a car that has 220 horsepower, but is known to be a piece of crap, versus getting a car that has 200 horsepower, but is reliable and built to better standards.

The decision is up to the buyer. I don't disagree with the benchmarks. My personal recommendation is to get the 6800GT, but that does not sound like a valid option for this buyer.

I also disagree with a) the "mail in rebate," an elusive offer on many purchases which I have *personally* been stiffed on over a dozen times in my lifetime. and b) PNY, which due to previous purchases, I believe to have poor quality control.
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I've heard PNY be a fairly poor quality card. The 6800 like has already been said isn't near as powerful as the 6800GT because of the pipelines and the fact I don't think they have a 256mb 6800, believe it's just 128mb which isn't DDR3 memory, only DDR2. I believe the 6600GT is better than the 6800, but obviously the 6800GT is more powerful than the 6600GT plus it's a great overclocked if you go with eVGA.

IMO you're gonna get a crappy card when for the same price you can get a quality built eVGA 6600GT with 128mb of DDR3 memory and overclockability and quality at that
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Don't even consider the plain 6800 cards. They're terrible and a total waste of money. If you get a 6800-chip card, get the 6800GT.

And I wouldn't touch a 6600 unless you got it PCI-E and on the higher end.
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if you do in fact get a 6800, i'll tell you how to unlock those extra piplines to the 16 that a GT has. PM if you are interested, it's free and works on my regular 6800 quite well.
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And I wouldn't touch a 6600 unless you got it PCI-E and on the higher end
ok...currently PCI-E offers nothing better than the AGP Version. Beyond that...it's the best bang for your buck for those who can't afford $400 on a 6800GT...there's nothing wrong with the 6600GT at all
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