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Old 09-04-2011, 09:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just bought three SY-BIR-IDESA IDE to SATA bidirectional converters to connect my IDE hard drive, CD drive, and dvd drive to the SATA connectors on my new motherboard.

The directions are extremely vague, and the actual setup seemingly tricky. All over the Internet some people report that the adapters work well and immediately, and others couldnít get the things to work no matter what they tried. It is seldom specified what they tried besides the switch in both positions.

I havenít yet turned on the computer for the first time, but if the drives are not recognized a dozen things could potentially be wrong and I want to make sure I have the adapters connected right.

First question. I am still using my old power supply with its molex connectors. Three different staff at the computer parts store told me NOT to use the power connector on the adapter to power my IDE drives, because I have MOLEX connectors and the drives do not draw power from the mother board. SATA drives donít draw power from the mother board either; my power supply also has SATA power connectors. In fact itís hard to see why anyone would power their hard drives with this adapter unless they didnít for instance have the correct plugs for their drives.

Do the adapters need to be plugged into the power supply in order to work, or something? The computer parts staff said no.

What is the consequence of using the power connector if you donít need to?

The instructions donít mention an option of not using the power connectors; why not if you donít need to use them?

Second question. I know that the directions say to push the switch toward the power plug for my application, but without the pictures showing clearly how to position that switch, it isnít clear to me nor to anyone else on line what you mean. Do you mean to push the upper part of the switch toward the power plug, or to push the lower part of the switch toward the power plug?

Third question. Does each IDE drive need to be set as a master using a jumper? A couple of people said thatís when they got the adapter to work, and many people who could not get the adapter to work didnít mention whether the IDE drives were set as master. Of course, the issue is not mentioned in the instructions.

Fourth question. Is the power plug supposed to be pushed all the way in? It wonít push all the way in, on any of the three of them. A photo clearly shows it pushed only part way in. The computer parts staff told me it isnít supposed to push all the way in. It is transparently clear that the plug wonít necessarily make contact nor stay plugged in since nothing holds it in, since it isnít all the way in and it doesnít snap or get held in. All over the web people are complaining that the plug wonít stay in and may not make contact.

Of course, there is only a need to worry about this if I have to power my IDE drives through the converter.

Fifth question. Is there any thing else specific that I need to do to set up the converters propertly that arenít mentioned in the instructions?




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Default Re: Need help with IDE to SATA adapter

This one? Syba SY-BIR-IDESA IDE/SATA Converter Bi-Directional IDE to SATA: Electronics

If so, then you want to keep the switch on the left (e.g. IDE=>Sata). You'll also need power to the drives using the molex connectors, dunno what those store techs were telling you but you can't power a SATA drive through its data connection OR power an IDE drive through its data connection. So yes, power needed. That'll be coming from the Power Supply, just to clarify.

If you're unsure, you can try it without plugging in the molex power connectors to the drive if you want, the only consequence will be that it won't work.

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Old 09-05-2011, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes, that is the one. Here is the manufacturer's page on it. Under download you can find the instructions - well, in ultra miniature.


Are you sure about keeping the switch to the left? Toward the power plug is toward the right. This is for connecting a IDE drive to a SATA connector on the motherboard, now.

If I get it wrong will the board fry? Someone on a forum said he lost a board by setting up a bidirectional IDE to SATA adapter in the wrong direction.

Do I correctly understand you to say that the adapter itself is probably powered so it will not work if the power is not conneted to it - and to connect the IDE drive to the Molex plug on the adapter (not the one from the power supply)?

I also have a further question.

How do I set up BIOS? I have a Gigabyte mobo, GA-H61M-D2P-B3 board.

Iím not sure how to set up the BIOS for a IDE drive plugged into the SATA connector to begin with. Is it still different working with an adapter?

It often says on these forums that one has to specifically tell BIOS that you are using IDE drives. I find options for drives in two places.

For Standard CMOS features, it has IDE Channel 0, 1Master/ Slave, and IDE Channel 2,3 Master. The options for both consist essentially of whether to tell BIOS you have no SATA drives so that it does not take extra time to look for them while posting.

The Master/Slave thing is confusing; I understand that since there are only ATA connectors there is no such thing as Master/Slave and setting IDE drives up that way is not an option. Not I've been in BIOS yet. I want to make sure the adapter is set up right before powering up the computer.

Iím not clear on whether to tell the system I have no SATA drives, since doesnít the system think that my IDE drives are SATA drives once they are connected to the SATA connector?

The options provided in BIOS, for ďoperating mode of the integrated SATA controllersĒ appear to be whether to operate in Legacy IDE mode or Native IDE mode. Native IDE mode is default. The booklet makes it look as if this choice has more to do with the operating system (Windows XP Pro) than with the drive.

Do I need to set up the serial or parallel ports differently?

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Seems pretty straightforward from the instructions in the manual:
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The image is much clearer here: SY-BIR-IDESA/SY-BIR-IDESA_MANUAL.pdf
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