it was the HD the bad news is it was a backup drive i gotta find a way to get it to read 1 more time or i lost alot of files will have to get alot of cd-r's to back it up thanks for all the help
my network admin at school actually heard of the freezer trick and has used it a few times, i had to try it on a HDD for one of my english teachers but it didnt work so i guess it depends on its condition...